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I've been looking into APS Mesomorph. One of it's main active ingredients is Theobromine, another strong stimulant. Has some strong effects but worse, if you over dose you can get some mad headaches. For some people more than one scoop is enough to do this.

There are a few strong stims around.
AMP, Higenamine, Theobromine, Synepherine, Hordenine.
 
Got some Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard pre workout as a sample to try out. I wasn't expecting much as it's a pretty mainstream company and there doesn't seem to be anything special in the ingredients.

But I was pleasantly surprised at the kick this had. 20 minutes after taking it you could feel it kick in with tingles down the back of your neck. Smashed legs without much trouble. Tastes awesome too.

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"Banned substance free" on the front is asking for trouble if an ingredient gets listed by WADA/ASADA later on.
 
The flavour I got was watermelon. Usually not a fan, but tasted great.

The stims/mental focus ingredients are listed at the bottom of the nutritional panel.
- Acetyl l-carnitine HCI.
- N Acetyl-tyrosine.
- Caffeine.
 
Was going to buy some of Jamie Lewis stuff but then got gifted a load of C4 so will stick to that for a bit.

Sounds interesting...

the maximum legal amounts of caffeine and yohimbine HCL, then added higenamine, hordenine, acacia rigidula, and synephrine, to provide an the amount of sustainable energy that can only be descibed as "f*cking FIERCE".

• enough nootropics to this blend to make you feel like Einstein after he fell face first into a coca plant.
 
Sounds interesting...

the maximum legal amounts of caffeine and yohimbine HCL, then added higenamine, hordenine, acacia rigidula, and synephrine, to provide an the amount of sustainable energy that can only be descibed as "f*cking FIERCE".

• enough nootropics to this blend to make you feel like Einstein after he fell face first into a coca plant.

Yea will try it eventually and let you kunce know.

So awesome not to have to pay shipping to oz anymore!
 
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