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Overcoming Eating Disorders

I really appreciate all the input from everybody and would also like to say everybodies opinions are taken on board. By the way I like people to say things straight up so dont worry your not going to hurt any feelings here!

To Brick -I understand that getting over counting calories is a big thing but I find if i do not stick to my set meal plan I eat less because of my mindset.

To TLS - You may be right or wrong over the time I was putting the weight on between the age of 13 - 16 i had severe anxiety and depression. Exercise was my escape from that world thats why i love it so much.

To Relevant and everybody about scales - I use to jump on the scales everytime I walked into the bathroom. I now hide them out of sight and pull them out once every saturday morning to weigh myself. I understand the benefits of not knowing my weight and going off the mirror but i also like to track progress through measurements, skin folds and weight etc.

To Deep - Thankyou so much for your input. I think as food as fuel aswell. I have just got to stop driving my car. Dont worry palm sized steaks arent a problem. haha As i mentioned ive just gotta leave my fuel in my car instead of driving as much. Im not to sure about the put the size on then cut back thing at the moment.

To Wingman - I agree totally. It is a lifestyle choice not a diet. It is something you can stick to for the rest of your life.

To CCM - I will be in contact with you via PM I would love to hear your story! I dont get along with doctors to great but a good circle of influence is vital. "you become the average of your surroundings" Therefore surround yourself with Big, Strong, Healthy, Fit and Positive people and you will become.
 
chocchillimango said:
maybe but maybe not. with the greatest of respect, nobody here is qualified to make that judgement call or diagnosis.

I would recommend he sees his doctor in case there is concern.
Some of the things spoken of indicate that it's worth doing.

I say this having been there myself.
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You say no one is qualified to make that call and then hint that he might have an eating disorder and that he should see a doctor.

In my opinion seeing a doctor is a massive over reaction and I agree with DLS 100% having gone though the same thing myself and now back to being a bit of a fatty.
Not only have I gone throught this but I have seen this occur in many other 16-17 yr olds. Basically the story goes like this, teenagers are fucking mean as hell and will tease the shit out of any fat teenager, fat teenager gets sick of being called fat and when you are 16/17 is probably the first chance you have to hit the gym, go running and be independent and make decisions on what you will and won't eat. This leads to under eating, too much cario and massive weight loss and usually the kid is afraid to eat as they don't want to go back to being the fat kid they once were. Also chances are a lot of people have been saying how good the kid looks and admiring thier ability to loose weight which just reinforces the bad habits that they have developed.
Finally I don't think being 60kgs @ 6 foot is that bad, a little underweight yes, but not life threatening. Your body is designed to go for long periods with little food, that's why it is so good at holding onto the fat.
 
disagree entirely - seeing the doctor is not just about the physical issue (being underweight), its also about the mental health / maladaptive thinking patterns which contribute to being underweight. GP is the first point of reference for all things mind / body related.
 
xwifex said:
disagree entirely - seeing the doctor is not just about the physical issue (being underweight), its also about the mental health / maladaptive thinking patterns which contribute to being underweight. GP is the first point of reference for all things mind / body related.
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If he was going to see a doctor he would have done so instead of posting on here and asking to meet up with people, so still rubbish advice IMO. Most males would never see a doctor about anything related to mental health. Family and friends will provide the best advice and comfort as they know you better than anyone, also get a gf as I said previously they love talking about feelings and shit.
 
Relevant said:
You say no one is qualified to make that call and then hint that he might have an eating disorder and that he should see a doctor.

In my opinion seeing a doctor is a massive over reaction and I agree with DLS 100% having gone though the same thing myself and now back to being a bit of a fatty.
Not only have I gone throught this but I have seen this occur in many other 16-17 yr olds. Basically the story goes like this, teenagers are fucking mean as hell and will tease the shit out of any fat teenager, fat teenager gets sick of being called fat and when you are 16/17 is probably the first chance you have to hit the gym, go running and be independent and make decisions on what you will and won't eat. This leads to under eating, too much cario and massive weight loss and usually the kid is afraid to eat as they don't want to go back to being the fat kid they once were. Also chances are a lot of people have been saying how good the kid looks and admiring thier ability to loose weight which just reinforces the bad habits that they have developed.
Finally I don't think being 60kgs @ 6 foot is that bad, a little underweight yes, but not life threatening. Your body is designed to go for long periods with little food, that's why it is so good at holding onto the fat.
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With the greatest respect, I had anorexia for years so I think I speak from a little experience. I am also mentoring a young woman with anorexia/bulimia and have had friends and family who have gone through it and have seen what eating disorders can do.

It's not all about your weight and the physical side of things. 99% of it is psychological.

Seriously, you really have no idea.
 
Relevant said:
If he was going to see a doctor he would have done so instead of posting on here and asking to meet up with people, so still rubbish advice IMO. Most males would never see a doctor about anything related to mental health. Family and friends will provide the best advice and comfort as they know you better than anyone, also get a gf as I said previously they love talking about feelings and shit.
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To be honest relevant's on the ball here. From past issues with anxiety and depression I tried seeing alot of doctors and counsellors at a younger age(Mum made me go). As I got older I would refuse to go see them and my mum couldnt physically force me to go there anymore.

From my past experiences they didn't help me anyway. Most GP's and Psychiatrist's look for the quick fix (Drugs). I beat my anxiety and depression with a couple of good close friends and family as well as exercise.

Having a good circle of influence is the most important thing. I can see how getting a GF would help to haha. Thats not really big on my agenda at the moment though.

No offence but I thinks its a women thing seeing GP's/Specialists as most women helping me out at the moment have suggested it. Hey maybe its worth a shot but from my past experiences I would prefer to learn from people who actually know what it's like.

Cheers
Sean
 
Sean i didn't see a psychologist or psychiatrist at all.

But from the experience of girls I've worked with who have, drugs were not prescribed and they had a serious ED that in some cases was life threatening (with hospitalisation).
Drugs are most often used to treat clinical depression but not for EDs, unless there are mitigating circumstances.

it's not a girl thing at all.

There is a difference between what you are experiencing and an eating disorder. Yours is not really an eating disorder, but a pattern of behaviour that is not impacting your diet, but is impacting on your exercise regime.
 
chocchillimango said:
With the greatest respect, I had anorexia for years so I think I speak from a little experience. I am also mentoring a young woman with anorexia/bulimia and have had friends and family who have gone through it and have seen what eating disorders can do.

It's not all about your weight and the physical side of things. 99% of it is psychological.

Seriously, you really have no idea.
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CCM judging by boxings response above it would appear i have somewhat of an idea, clearly this is a topic close to your heart and i can see that your just trying to help and i can see why you would suggest seeing a doctor, but I believe that should be the last resort because more than likely they are going to try and fix the problem with Drugs which is not the answer.

Boxing, can you play an instrument if not i think you should learn one as it will give you something to do instead of excercise and you know they say that music soothes the soul, learning another language is also a productive and rewarding activity.

Finally here is a music clip I watch when I'm feeling shit, it has good message.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOS1GaxqAkI&ob=av2e"][YOUTUBE][/ame][ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOS1GaxqAkI&ob=av2e]SafetySuit - These Times - YouTube[/ame][ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOS1GaxqAkI&ob=av2e"][/YOUTUBE][/ame]
 
I think what relevant is trying to say is. try new things. Whether its music, spiritual, educational or recreational. Step outside and see life from a different perspective to what you seeing now. Volunteer, give back to the community you love. I am Not saying your life is bad. I am passing on knowledge that I have acquired throughout my journey. I find by trying new things you are discovering yourself.

Do not like disease or boundaries dictate your life. You are in control. you always have been.
 
For a good 6 months now I have started changing my life. Doing a lot of personal development sort of stuff and always trying to look at the positive side of things. Words like Eating Disorders, Anxiety and Depression are labels that society use as an excuse for there problems. Im not going to say that I dont use it as a excuse or have not in the past. But by no means am I going to let them dictate my life. Like you said sookie you are in control of your life.
 
boxing23 said:
For a good 6 months now I have started changing my life. Doing a lot of personal development sort of stuff and always trying to look at the positive side of things. Words like Eating Disorders, Anxiety and Depression are labels that society use as an excuse for there problems. Im not going to say that I dont use it as a excuse or have not in the past. But by no means am I going to let them dictate my life. Like you said sookie you are in control of your life.
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Mate, that is an awesome attitude right there. If you live by that mantra you will be fine. I read this quote the other day which highlights how your thoughts become your destiny, which I think is relevant here.

“Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.”
 
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