Lol, no worries Baz.
Not much point discussing anything with you.
Sorry, wrong.
If you can't understand the link between recovery and training volume and how that ends in overtraining due to a combination of both of them. I can't help you. Fuck, no one can.
Overtraining is when you out train your recovery abilities. They are linked together.
I suggest you re-read what I wrote in very plain English that even you could understand rather than getting your panties in a twist. You're on the right track Baz, you have just restated half of what I originally said. Now take that next step. I can illustrate it in a picture if that helps.
Pack you don't understand it and that's ok. I restated what I said because you are struggling with the concept. You claim they are separate. I certainly didn't restated what you said.
I see we are back at pack logic. Not much point in discussing it with me but you continue to post. Lol. Bit like when you announced that you were ignoring me and posted more than ever. At least it's better than the time you had your first beer and jumped on the forum and said you wanted me to die. So you are getting better at this forum thing. Good stuff buddy. I'm proud of you.
Lol. What a surprise. Pack disagrees with me.
It's the same thing. You are just describing two ends of the same piece of string. Overtraining is simply not enough recovery for the work you are doing. They are not separate.
Bazza20;717304I see we are back at pack logic. Not much point in discussing it with me but you continue to post. Lol. Bit like when you announced that you were ignoring me and posted more than ever. At least it's better than the time you had your first beer and jumped on the forum and said you wanted me to die. So you are getting better at this forum thing. Good stuff buddy. I'm proud of you.[/QUOTE said:You are far better at fiction than fact. Stick with this champ.
Good post Gooseface. Agree week whole heartedly.
Took me a while to figure all this out...but i get it now.
Tim.
If overtraining and under recovering are not the same, why does better recovery fix the problem?
The people who think they are different have a more narrow definition of recovery than I do.
If you think it's the same thing, you're over simplifying it. So essentially you could train most of the day as long as you keep eating and sleeping during the rest phase? No matter how much you eat, there is a point where you have stimulated muscle growth and you've hit the point of diminishing returns. As Repacked said, you could be training like a pussy, but also eating and sleeping like shit. They're the inverse of each other.
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