Milk - superfood or poison

[Darkoz]

It' a study off!

 

[Stiffy]

SIX REASONS WHY NOT TO BUY PASTEURISED MILK FROM STORES

1. Pasteurized/Ultra-pasteurized

Heating milk destroys bacteria, but it also destroys enzymes, making it harder to digest. Many people diagnosed as lactose intolerant are only intolerant to pasteurized milk, because it lacks the enzymes necessary for digestion. The Campaign for Real Milk website notes that pasteurization's worst offense is the fact that it makes most of the calcium in milk insoluble - meaning the body is unable to use it. However, the pasteurization of industrial milk is actually necessary, because it's essentially dirty milk that would otherwise be dangerous.

Ultra-high temperature, or UHT, pasteurization, a processing method that heats milk to extreme temperatures, destroys virtually all the micro life within milk - making the proteins virtually indigestible. More than 80 percent of all the organic milk sold in the U.S. is UHT pasteurized.

2. Homogenized

Homogenization, a process often called "the worst thing dairymen have done to milk," is the breaking down of fat molecules in milk through very high pressure. This stops the fat from rising to the top and creates a "consistent" product. It also makes milk fat toxic to the body. Homogenization releases the enzyme xanthine oxidase, which is damaging to the body once it's broken into unnaturally small pieces. Arterial walls can begin to accumulate xanthine oxidase, which subsequently promotes heart disease.

3. Low fat/Non fat

When you consume low-fat or skim milk, not only are you drinking a denatured food, you're contributing to obesity. A 2005 study published in Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine followed 12,829 children ages 9 to 14 years. The study found that drinking reduced fat milk was associated with weight gain, whereas full-fat milk was not.

4. GMO grain-fed

Cows are meant to eat grass, not grains, which is why milk from grass-fed cows (raw milk) is much healthier. It's notably higher in CLA - a fat that can help you maintain a healthy weight and lower your risk for heart disease. In general, grain-fed cows that live in CAFOs produce less healthy milk that's lower in vitamins, minerals (particularly calcium) and omega-3 fats. As far as the GMO aspect goes, we've already seen what they do to pig's stomachs.

5. Antibiotics

80 percent of the antibiotics sold in this country are fed to food animals, and 23,000 people die from antibiotic-resistant infections each year. Coincidence? Not likely. The FDA allows antibiotic residue in milk, because there's really no way to avoid it, other than not using antibiotics. As a result, they decide what a safe level of antibiotic residue is, and that becomes the amount you're exposed to.

6. Hormones

Hormone levels in industrial milk are high for two reason: Cows are treated with artificial growth hormones created by bio-tech companies (which are banned in many countries), and they are milked about 300 days a year - for much of that time, they are pregnant. Milk from a pregnant cow contains 33 times more of the estrogen known as estrone sulfate than milk from a non-pregnant cow. Nobody knows the extent of the risks presented by these dietary hormones, but there is plenty of concern in the scientific community about their possible link to cancer.

Raw milk

If you're drinking raw, whole milk, you will, for the most part, avoid each of these issues. Despite what critics say about raw milk safety, the truth is that you're chances of being hospitalized from drinking raw milk are about one in six million. In other words, you're three times more likely to die in a plane crash than to be hospitalized from drinking raw milk.

^this actually does sound pretty convincing. Is this the reason you don't drink Milk [MENTION=8428]Big Mick[/MENTION]; ? Don't you consume any Dairy? Even the AMA recommends an adequate amount of Dairy per day.

 

[Repacked]

It' a study off!

 

[showdownhero]

Not true
From the FDA

strong study, so rats are humans now

anyway if calcium is so rich in calcium that we can absorb and good for your bones then explain the following

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

and finally

Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

 

[Bazza20]

strong study, so rats are humans now

anyway if calcium is so rich in calcium that we can absorb and good for your bones then explain the following

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

and finally

Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

Try again. You posted something saying calcium was rendered insoluble by pasteurization . 100% wrong, you conveniently ignore that and now move onto something else, infact everything you posted was wrong. You said the study I posed was on rats. Please read again. Not a study, it was a review of multiple study's by the FDA and it included information on humans.

 

[Reide]

Milk is bad mkay

 

[Repacked]

I prefer organic cats milk.

 

[Reide]

I prefer organic cats milk.

I think that you should not suck a kitty nips.

 

[Repacked]

I think that you should not suck a kitty nips.

No sucking involved.

 

[Jungnaut]

As long as you're not drinking nut milk, that shit is causing scurvy!!

Almond milk linked to rare scurvy casehttp://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...e/news-story/4f5a1655ec756f6d9b794c09f69b0100

 

[Reide]

No sucking involved.

Might as well be.

 

[Headley]

Meh. I drank cows milk that came from the cow, ran several times through a strainer and filter, then refridgerated.

Grew up on that, we went through so much milk. No processing other than filtering.

Never broken a bone before too so yeah. Anecdotal evidence is +1

 

[Stiffy]

1. In observational studies both across countries and within single populations, higher dairy intake has been linked to increased risk of prostate cancer (cited in [SUP][2][/SUP]).
2. Observational cohort studies have shown higher dairy intake is linked to higher ovarian cancer risk (cited in [SUP][2][/SUP]).
3. Cow’s milk protein may play a role in triggering type 1 diabetes through a process called molecular mimicry[SUP][3][/SUP].
4. Across countries, populations that consume more dairy have higher rates of multiple sclerosis[SUP][4][/SUP].
5. In interventional animal experiments and human studies, dairy protein has been shown to increase IGF-1 (Insulin-like Growth Factor-1) levels. Increased levels of IGF-1 has now been implicated in several cancers[SUP][5][/SUP].
6. In interventional animal experiments[SUP][6][/SUP] and human experiments[SUP][7][/SUP], dairy protein has been shown to promote increased cholesterol levels (in the human studies and animal studies) and atherosclerosis (in the animal studies).
7. The primary milk protein (casein) promotes cancer initiated by a carcinogen in experimental animal studies[SUP][8][/SUP].
8. D-galactose has been found to be pro-inflammatory and actually is given to create animal models of aging[SUP][1][/SUP].
9. Higher milk intake is linked to acne[SUP][9][/SUP].
10. Milk intake has been implicated in constipation[SUP][10][/SUP] and ear infections (cited in [SUP][2][/SUP]).
11. Milk is perhaps the most common self-reported food allergen in the world[SUP][11][/SUP].
12. Much of the world’s population cannot adequately digest milk due to lactose intolerance.

References

1. Michaelsson K, Wolk A, Langenskiold S, et al. Milk intake and risk of mortality and fractures in women and men: cohort studies. Bmj 2014;349:g6015.
2. Lanou AJ. Should dairy be recommended as part of a healthy vegetarian diet? Counterpoint. The American journal of clinical nutrition 2009;89:1638S-42S.
3. Dahl-Jorgensen K, Joner G, Hanssen KF. Relationship between cows’ milk consumption and incidence of IDDM in childhood. Diabetes Care 1991;14:1081-3.
4. Malosse D, Perron H, Sasco A, Seigneurin JM. Correlation between milk and dairy product consumption and multiple sclerosis prevalence: a worldwide study. Neuroepidemiology 1992;11:304-12.
5. Key TJ. Diet, insulin-like growth factor-1 and cancer risk. Proc Nutr Soc 2011:1-4.
6. Kritchevsky D. Dietary protein, cholesterol and atherosclerosis: a review of the early history. The Journal of nutrition 1995;125:589S-93S.
7. Gardner CD, Messina M, Kiazand A, Morris JL, Franke AA. Effect of two types of soy milk and dairy milk on plasma lipids in hypercholesterolemic adults: a randomized trial. Journal of the American College of Nutrition 2007;26:669-77.
8. Youngman LD, Campbell TC. Inhibition of aflatoxin B1-induced gamma-glutamyltranspeptidase positive (GGT+) hepatic preneoplastic foci and tumors by low protein diets: evidence that altered GGT+ foci indicate neoplastic potential. Carcinogenesis 1992;13:1607-13.
9. Spencer EH, Ferdowsian HR, Barnard ND. Diet and acne: a review of the evidence. Int J Dermatol 2009;48:339-47.
10. Caffarelli C, Baldi F, Bendandi B, Calzone L, Marani M, Pasquinelli P. Cow’s milk protein allergy in children: a practical guide. Italian journal of pediatrics 2010;36:5.
11. Rona RJ, Keil T, Summers C, et al. The prevalence of food allergy: a meta-analysis. J Allergy Clin Immunol 2007;120:638-46.

http://nutritionstudies.org/12-frightening-facts-milk/



And I just drank a Litre of that shit

 

[Stiffy]

Avoid Dangers Related to Cow’s Milk

Here are some ways to avoid the dangers associated with cow’s milk:

Replace cow’s milk with healthy natural substitutes: rice milk, almond milk, raw goat’s milk or my favorite – hemp milk. If you do insist on drinking cow’s milk, make sure to buy only the non-genetically modified, range fed, organic raw versions. Even better, talk to your local organic farmer to make sure the cow’s are treated kindly. Eat less cheese and always buy organic versions. Goat’s cheese is the best for you!
​http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/dangers-of-cows-milk/

 

[Goosey]

Avoid Dangers Related to Cow’s Milk

Here are some ways to avoid the dangers associated with cow’s milk:

Replace cow’s milk with healthy natural substitutes: rice milk, almond milk, raw goat’s milk or my favorite – hemp milk. If you do insist on drinking cow’s milk, make sure to buy only the non-genetically modified, range fed, organic raw versions. Even better, talk to your local organic farmer to make sure the cow’s are treated kindly. Eat less cheese and always buy organic versions. Goat’s cheese is the best for you!
​http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/dangers-of-cows-milk/

You're dead to me

 

[Darkoz]

.....sponsored by tbe lesbian vegan SJW society of the PC culture, their motto being "we pay good money for misinformation and outright bullshit"

 

[White_Lie]

If you do insist on drinking cow’s milk, make sure to buy only the non-genetically modified, range fed, organic raw versions. Even better, talk to your local organic farmer to make sure the cow’s are treated kindly.

So we need to pay the equivalent of wagyu prices for milk now to avoid cancer? I'm sure there's a tree out there somewhere that needs a hug Stiffy....

 

[Stiffy]

Goes fishing for Barracuda (or is that Bazzacuda) and all I get is Guppies!!!

FML.

 

[White_Lie]

Goes fishing for Barracuda (or is that Bazzacuda) and all I get is Guppies!!!

FML.

Blowfish are much better than Guppies

 

[Fadi]

There are many cultures around the world who thrive on milk and dairy in general. Yet there are just as many others who are negatively affected by dairy. Food..., like people, can sometimes be used as a scapegoat for many different reasons. I think different cultures around the world can learn from each other when it comes to food, and the balancing or complementing ways certain cultures manage to thrive on a particular food, where that same food can behave like a poison to some other people.

When it comes to milk, the selling point connected with it has always been the mineral calcium. Calcium needs to be balanced with other nutrients that are lacking in milk. To make matters worse, much worse in fact, another selling point made its way onto milk and dairy, that selling point was its new low fat to the latest no fat content of dairy.

So without getting deep into it here, certain world cultures did not only miss the chance to balance this food with other foods, but they went on to further throw the balance out by glorifying low/no fat dairy, whilst demonising what was much closer to being natural and complete. By "they", I'm referring to the big coperations whose main focus and target is money over people's health.