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jack3d

Imo best to stay natural, interms of caffine. Its shown that caffine helps doms but id rather take bcaa's during training for that.

As said before its a bucketload cheaper to diy your own pre-workout supps if you really need. Unfortunetly caffine/any pre-w/o just doesnt effect me much. hell back in year 7 downed 4 espresso's at camp and slept like a baby. *sigh*

Id give jacked a try but they just dont have trial packs!
 
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