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I think you raise a really good point here woody. how is it possible to have a general guideline when what you eat it is heavily dependent availability and type of food which changes based on geographical region, social factors, wealth etc etc .
 
I don't drink any juice or soda so to me that's a lot of sugar

Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc
 
Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc
Plenty of dumb people out there though !
 
I think you raise a really good point here woody. how is it possible to have a general guideline when what you eat it is heavily dependent availability and type of food which changes based on geographical region, social factors, wealth etc etc .

Thats why it’s a general guideline and not a specific food by food requirement of exactly what to eat.


in reality it’s better than what 90%+ of people eat. When I go to the supermarket I’m always amazed how unhealthy almost everyone looks and how shit the food is in their baskets.


A bloke I work with from America has to travel the world advising people for his job. He says the only place in the world that eats as much shit food as the USA is Australia.
 
Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc

Yeah I know, bloody apples and bananas causing the obesity epidemic in Australia.
 
The advice on fats is stupid, zero causal evidence linking dietary fats and heart disease
 
Its cited in the post above man, just read it

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/healthy-diet


Ok then, lets analyse this one sentence at a time

Energy intake (calories) should be in balance with energy expenditure
Agreed

To avoid unhealthy weight gain, total fat should not exceed 30% of total energy intake (1, 2, 3)
Utter nonsense, if calories are controlled (as per the first sentence) it doesn't matter if 5% or 80% of calories are from fat.

Lets have a look at their references 1, 2 and 3


1)Hooper L, Abdelhamid A, Bunn D, Brown T, Summerbell CD, Skeaff CM. Effects of total fat intake on body weight. Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2015; (8):CD011834.
Absolute junk science, all this shows is people who reduce calories lost weight. In no way shape or form does this study demonstrate that limiting fats to 30% of calorie intake is inherently healthy.
2) Diet, nutrition and the prevention of chronic diseases: report of a Joint WHO/FAO Expert Consultation. WHO Technical Report Series, No. 916. Geneva: World Health Organization; 2003.
This isn't a study, doesn't belong as a reference
3) Fats and fatty acids in human nutrition: report of an expert consultation. FAO Food and Nutrition Paper 91. Rome: Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations; 2010
lol this is a extract from that study "There was convincing evidence that energy balance is critical to maintaining healthy body weight and ensuring optimal nutrient intakes, regardless of macronutrient distribution of energy as % total fat and % total carbohydrates" so once again this study doesn't not substantiate their 30% claim one iota

Next sentence
Intake of saturated fats should be less than 10% of total energy intake, and intake of trans-fats less than 1% of total energy intake, with a shift in fat consumption away from saturated fats and trans-fats to unsaturated fats (3)
I'm not going to stand up for trans fats, they're junk but I'm interested to see what the FAO report (3) has to say about saturated fats and why they should be limited to 10% of calorie intake for a 'healthy diet'

The primary reference to saturated fats in the report states that saturated fats are best replaced with PUSA due to the improvements seen in LDL/HDL ratios. However once again nothing to indicate that limiting saturated fats to 10% of calorific intake is inherently health. It also states explicitly that replacing saturated fats with carbohydrates doesn't improve cholesterol ratios

Furthermore the following 7 studies all refute the hypothesis that saturated fats raise cholesterol

The Bogalusa Heart Study

Tecumseh Study

Evans County Study

Israel Ischemic Heart Study

Health Professionals Follow-Up

Western Electric Study

Japanese Living In Hawaii Study

So like I said there's absolutely no evidence that limiting total fats to 30% of calorie intake nor saturated fats to 10% is inherently healthy
 
Given it is only a guide, would this not also mean that there is also little or no evidence to suggest these numbers are bad for you, therefore it’s not necessarily wrong (just not supported by studies) ?

It's certainly possible to follow these guidelines and be perfectly healthy but that doesn't mean it's good advice.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I think it demonstrates an exceptional waste of resources that billions of tax payers dollars across the western world are spent demonising saturated fats and dietary cholesterol when the scientific evidence is inconclusive.
 
Is Conventional Nutritional Advice Correct

What is the best age to transfer kittens onto adult food?I have heard some differing advice from 6 months onwards or some will say wait until they are at least 12 months?