Getting down to business with one of the best upper body mass builders.

[Goosey]

Sorry Andy, I called you Adrian.


Fadi.

I was going to say I've been called worse...

 

[TLS]

The gym owner put pullovers in my first ever program back in about 1987. But, since I didn't have a chest at all, we left it until I could at least bench "something." I never really got into them, and have seen them very seldom since.

 

[Grippy]

These are along forgotten exercise, doesn't the original squats and milk program state to smash the pullovers too?
I used to do these a fair bit, same issue as D-man, not confident in the collars on my DB's and was paranoid about the plates sliding off and smashing me in the face, so mainly used a barbell.
Andy and his Nautilus machines, you have a fair few dont you, have you seen this one before?
Exercise Machine - Nautilus 'Four Way Neck' w/ Weights - RRP $2000+ - Reserve Now Reduced From $800 to $400! - Lot # 1

 

[Goosey]

These are along forgotten exercise, doesn't the original squats and milk program state to smash the pullovers too?
I used to do these a fair bit, same issue as D-man, not confident in the collars on my DB's and was paranoid about the plates sliding off and smashing me in the face, so mainly used a barbell.
Andy and his Nautilus machines, you have a fair few dont you, have you seen this one before?
Exercise Machine - Nautilus 'Four Way Neck' w/ Weights - RRP $2000+ - Reserve Now Reduced From $800 to $400! - Lot # 1

You beauty!
I've been looking for one.

 

[Grippy]

I thought of you when I saw it,

 

[Goosey]

I thought of you when I saw it,

Thank you grippy.

 

[canned tuna]

Thankyou for posting this Fadi,

May just be what I'm looking for to build some real thickness in the triceps (long head) and keep everything else pumping. Will see how it goes at next opportunity

Tuna

 

[Tregs]

Exercise of Of the year I loved it (sore as hell today )

 

[KungFooGoo]

KungFooGoo did last night :

1 x 20 @ 29 - Struggle town completing reps
4 x 10 @ 29

He is not sore today though... does this mean l didn't "stretch" the movement enough?

 

[perceive]

I've been doing pullovers the last few weeks with a barbell, but I'm more than happy to try a dumb bell and see how it goes. Thanks for posting the original article

 

[DREADLIFT]

Of all the machines ive used, the plate loaded pullovers are easily the best ive used.

Whilst not as effective as an upper body mass builder as the dumbell pullover, the plate loaded pullover is easily the best back building machine i've ever used.

 

[KungFooGoo]

Fuck me, just realised ive been ballsing these up big time... Didn't realise there basically a LTE.... No wonder l wasnt crying like everyone else the day after.... Will give these another crack on Monday.....

 

[Darkoz]

Fuck me, just realised ive been ballsing these up big time... Didn't realise there basically a LTE.... No wonder l wasnt crying like everyone else the day after.... Will give these another crack on Monday.....

What's an LTE Gooman, lying tricep extension?
If so, then no they are not like a tricep extension at all
You want to keep only a slight bend in the elbow just to take the stress off the joint but not bend the elbow so much that you're involving the triceps too much, this is not a tricep exercise.

 

[KungFooGoo]

What's an LTE Gooman, lying tricep extension?
If so, then no they are not like a tricep extension at all
You want to keep only a slight bend in the elbow just to take the stress off the joint but not bend the elbow so much that you're involving the triceps too much, this is not a tricep exercise.

Yeah, l just looked at those photos again and it looked like a LTE to me... I've been doing them like this more or less.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihoBJSuAq0g]EZ Bar Pullover - YouTube[/ame]

Doing 1 x 20 @ 30 then 4 x 10 @ 30

 

[Darkoz]

No Gooman, that's not it at all, take a look.........

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw_Oy6fJT2c&feature=player_embedded]MuscleDog.com Presents: Dumbbell Pullover - YouTube[/ame]

 

[KungFooGoo]

Hmm true, will have to see how it goes with a dumbbell... Don't really want to be doing that too much as my collars / sleeves have fallen off a few times.....


EDIT: Can l still use the ez curl bar if l keep my arms straighter though? That seems to be the only difference between the two as far as KFG can tell...

 

[D-Man]

Hmm true, will have to see how it goes with a dumbbell... Don't really want to be doing that too much as my collars / sleeves have fallen off a few times.....


EDIT: Can l still use the ez curl bar if l keep my arms straighter though? That seems to be the only difference between the two as far as KFG can tell...

Yes you can use an ez curl bar. Most of thhe motion occurs around the shoulder joint, so I don't see why a bar would be diff to a dbell, just more difficult to control.

 

[Matty]

Great thread I think I will add these into my program! Is the best way to do them flat on a bench or cross ways on a bench like in the youtube clip above?

 

[Darkoz]

Hmm true, will have to see how it goes with a dumbbell... Don't really want to be doing that too much as my collars / sleeves have fallen off a few times.....


EDIT: Can l still use the ez curl bar if l keep my arms straighter though? That seems to be the only difference between the two as far as KFG can tell...

Yes of course Gooman so long as the technique is still the same

 

[Darkoz]

Great thread I think I will add these into my program! Is the best way to do them flat on a bench or cross ways on a bench like in the youtube clip above?

It's a matter of preference Matty, try both to see how it feels, either way I think your shoulders should be right at the end of the bench with your head over the the end of the bench.