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I think people are grasping at straws here.
I don't even know what paleo is or stands for so not sure why people, keep talking about it.
Anyway it seems that there are people here who are just arguing and trolling for the sake of it, and have yet to come up with one sensible argument.
It appears that a person would be better off eating grains and sugar when we all know it is the cause of a lot of dietary issues people have today. And somehow by not eating them I am missing out on something??
People are arguing that people who eat whole and healthy/natural foods sould live in caves and under trees?? Wtf?? We don't have to live like animals to eat healthy whole foods. Just because we are smart enough to drive cars and livein houses has not changed our body. We still need nutritious food to eat. No matter how much people want to twist and turn and divert attention by talking about cooking food and living in caves and all the other rubbish posted here the fact remains.......FACT....not fiction, not guess work, not a hunch but FACT that processed sugar does you no good and that grain are not an essential food and cause a lot of issues. There is no negatives to not eating them.
If you chose to eat them that that is your choice, same as the smoker who chooses to smoke etc etc. but don't try and make it sound like it's an essential and integral part of a balanced diet.
No mick you are the one grasping at straws. You are yet to come up with a sensible argument. Do i need to remind you, grain is equivalent to plastic, the anti nutrient one.
You have thrown every dodgy argument out there possible about why grains are not a food but some how others don't have a sensible argument???
Just because you keep saying fact over and over doesn't make it true especially since we have seen how loose your facts have been in this thread anyway.
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Equally...I think people are grasping at straws here.
I don't even know what paleo is or stands for so not sure why people, keep talking about it.
Anyway it seems that there are people here who are just arguing and trolling for the sake of it, and have yet to come up with one sensible argument.
It appears that a person would be better off eating grains and sugar when we all know it is the cause of a lot of dietary issues people have today. And somehow by not eating them I am missing out on something??
People are arguing that people who eat whole and healthy/natural foods sould live in caves and under trees?? Wtf?? We don't have to live like animals to eat healthy whole foods. Just because we are smart enough to drive cars and livein houses has not changed our body. We still need nutritious food to eat. No matter how much people want to twist and turn and divert attention by talking about cooking food and living in caves and all the other rubbish posted here the fact remains.......FACT....not fiction, not guess work, not a hunch but FACT that processed sugar does you no good and that grain are not an essential food and cause a lot of issues. There is no negatives to not eating them.
If you chose to eat them that that is your choice, same as the smoker who chooses to smoke etc etc. but don't try and make it sound like it's an essential and integral part of a balanced diet.
Don't make out like it can't fit into a healthy diet...
Also a big stretch to compare grains to smoking...
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C_T
Kunce of the Year 2015
exactly, look what they did to our beef industry... feeding them grains instead of grass, now their body freaks out and e.coli is rampant so fed ridiculous anti-biotics just to survive, oh but they fatten up and get tasty!
think about it man, think before you type. cows are supposed to eat grass not grains.
they get fucked up, just like we get fucked up and obese eating grains. sure we survive, that doesn't mean we "healthy"
i enjoy an intelligent discussion, but ive been around the bush and studied diets for longer than this board has been in existance. im not saying everything i say is right, im just giving my personal observations.
if only 1 person reads this thread and has a positive outcome, im happy that i spent the 5 minutes to make a difference, its what i do at work and i rarely take my work home, but sometimes i see so many fatties and i just have to post in the hopes someone out there atleast listens with an open mind and researches it for themselves, and changes their life for the better.
the only thing i use grains for is brewing
keep the discussion going i say, but keep it on topic an no personal attacks, we all have difference of opinion which is environmental exposures to different upbringing and education.
the reason i refuse to become a dietitian is because im sick to death of the western backwards text books. what they teach is not always right, and they are not open for discussion.
edit: when i first researched food, i looked deeply into the ancient races, like tradition chinese dishes and medicine, india... def not australia or america. western food = fail.
unless your talking aboriginal. but they keep most of it all secret, its so hard researching...
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nazzysmith
kuncesmith
exactly, look what they did to our beef industry... feeding them grains instead of grass, now their body freaks out and e.coli is rampant so fed ridiculous anti-biotics just to survive, oh but they fatten up and get tasty!
think about it man, think before you type. cows are supposed to eat grass not grains.
they get fucked up, just like we get fucked up and obese eating grains. sure we survive, that doesn't mean we "healthy"
i enjoy an intelligent discussion, but ive been around the bush and studied diets for longer than this board has been in existance. im not saying everything i say is right, im just giving my personal observations.
if only 1 person reads this thread and has a positive outcome, im happy that i spent the 5 minutes to make a difference, its what i do at work and i rarely take my work home, but sometimes i see so many fatties and i just have to post in the hopes someone out there atleast listens with an open mind and researches it for themselves, and changes their life for the better.
the only thing i use grains for is brewing
keep the discussion going i say, but keep it on topic an no personal attacks, we all have difference of opinion which is environmental exposures to different upbringing and education.
the reason i refuse to become a dietitian is because im sick to death of the western backwards text books. what they teach is not always right, and they are not open for discussion.
Lol dude .... Bazz is on the farm... Knows more about cows then Wikipedia...
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exactly, look what they did to our beef industry... feeding them grains instead of grass, now their body freaks out and e.coli is rampant so fed ridiculous anti-biotics just to survive, oh but they fatten up and get tasty!
think about it man, think before you type. cows are supposed to eat grass not grains.
they get fucked up, just like we get fucked up and obese eating grains. sure we survive, that doesn't mean we "healthy"
i enjoy an intelligent discussion, but ive been around the bush and studied diets for longer than this board has been in existance. im not saying everything i say is right, im just giving my personal observations.
if only 1 person reads this thread and has a positive outcome, im happy that i spent the 5 minutes to make a difference, its what i do at work and i rarely take my work home, but sometimes i see so many fatties and i just have to post in the hopes someone out there atleast listens with an open mind and researches it for themselves, and changes their life for the better.
the only thing i use grains for is brewing
keep the discussion going i say, but keep it on topic an no personal attacks, we all have difference of opinion which is environmental exposures to different upbringing and education.
the reason i refuse to become a dietitian is because im sick to death of the western backwards text books. what they teach is not always right, and they are not open for discussion.
So you are actually saying that other farmers farm out of the goodness of there heart with no intention to make a profit. Well you are a retard.
Do you really want to get into a argument about cows eating grass?
C_T
Kunce of the Year 2015
why are they not open for discussion?
because its run by a board of 55+ yr olds who make their living advising stuff
they have the responsibility for alot of the research is happening, and they will not grant any money to research into how grains are killing humans through the beef industry for a prime example.
its not my fault you don't have exposure to this irl. google won't tell you this stuff.
get a real job and get involved, then you will find out all the nitty gritty! or be in a position to ask real farmers how they live, what they do, how they have to do certain things to simply keep a roof over their head.
its no longer whats good for you, its what a commodity is worth.
because its run by a board of 55+ yr olds who make their living advising stuff
they have the responsibility for alot of the research is happening, and they will not grant any money to research into how grains are killing humans through the beef industry for a prime example.
its not my fault you don't have exposure to this irl. google won't tell you this stuff.
get a real job and get involved, then you will find out all the nitty gritty! or be in a position to ask real farmers how they live, what they do, how they have to do certain things to simply keep a roof over their head.
its no longer whats good for you, its what a commodity is worth.
C_T
Kunce of the Year 2015
trolling is trolling if you read what i said, and same with mick, your quoting the opposite.
but im havin fun, bring it
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Lol... Tells a farmer how to milk a cow...
Seen it all now...
Seen it all now...
chocchillimango
Well-known member
haha this is gold
Hasnt wheat been genetically modified so when they harvest it they get a bigger yield? I was watching a documentary and it said the plant only grows to a certain size (cant remember the exact height) so scientists have modified it so it grows bigger, maybe this could be the reason wheat causes issues in people? Once people start playing god something has to give.
I don't think commercial genetically modified wheat crops are available yet but selective breeding of wheat and better farming technology has allowed for higher yields.
