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spartacus
Well-known member
Anyone who claims to know a magic training method is indeed a know all.
There are many ways to train, light, heavy, fast reps, and so on.
But if you are a Neanderthal, and thinking and learning is not your thing, then train heavy and have long rests. Can't really go wrong then.
But for those who have been around and know heavy weights and low reps can be overrated for many individuals, read the following.
http://www.yourhpservices.com/blog/2012/01/classic-article-alexeevs-training/
I am sure there will be the same arguments in 50 years time, and there will still be many strength athletes that train many different ways.
There are many ways to train, light, heavy, fast reps, and so on.
But if you are a Neanderthal, and thinking and learning is not your thing, then train heavy and have long rests. Can't really go wrong then.
But for those who have been around and know heavy weights and low reps can be overrated for many individuals, read the following.
http://www.yourhpservices.com/blog/2012/01/classic-article-alexeevs-training/
I am sure there will be the same arguments in 50 years time, and there will still be many strength athletes that train many different ways.
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0ni
Registered Rustler
You're basing this on what?
Common sense. And the special I saw on Chinese lifters where it showed them training.
Maybe he is a special case. Ffs one of the best built guys on my gridiron team, dude had quads, pecs and abs most body builders and 99% of this forum would die for, never even lifted weights at all - so anything is possible.
The Chinese lifters did tons of prehab, rehab and gpp work outside of lifting. They didn't just waltz in lift and go home. I would assume if he wanted to be the best he'd do something similar.
0ni
Registered Rustler
What is the most likely explanation? The well documented heavy training they do or the "morning exercises" consisting of lateral raises, push-ups, TRX bands and jogging?
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Your carrying on like all he does is a few snatches.
Usually when they do a Clean they then do front squats. And when they do some form of snatch they do olympic squats. When they do a clean and jerk they combine in presses. Sounds a hell of a lot like they are working in basic bodybuilding and strength training.
In reality, the blokes do loads of front squats, olympic squats, presses and a ton of other shit.
Add in some gpp to lean them up and you have a pretty impressive physique.
What Oni said. It was being implied that low reps can't build muscle. They can and do.
No one is saying o lifters do low volume. Lol.
The Olympic lifter training samples I have seen mostly dont involve a ton of other shit like you say. Olympic lifters are usually big on being very specific with their training. The comp lifts and a couple slight variations along with squats make up most of the training.
Also gpp training doesn't lean you up, diet does.
My point is that their physiques come from doing reps, just like a bodybuilder. In doing their cleans they may at times do 50-100+ reps of front squats. which builds the physique in the picture.
Gpp training can definitely help get a person lean.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I agree that shortening rest periods would make hypertophy more likely to happen or in larger amounts. Olympic weightlifters often only rest 60-90 seconds between sets. What's equally confusing though is that rest periods were never mentioned and in my own training I typically just take a drink, re wrap my wrists and go again
First time you have included volume in your argument. Now if you include something about load, your statement will make sense. Unless you are suggesting I can do low reps with high volume and low load?
Weight lifters do all sorts of shit, with many different training styles and methods. Put your hand up if you have actually been in an Olympic lifting gym, leave it down if you have just read about it online...
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0ni
Registered Rustler
No it isn't, I also mentioned using a high percentage of 1RM several times
