"isn't unpopular" - so you mean it's popular?
The whole "If it's not ATG it's not a squat" is just as fucking bad as equipped lifting
slight typo there...edited like it never happened.
Really? What's stupid about a full depth squat? IMO it looks far more impressive to the general sporting public, and is a better expression of athletic prowess.
I reckon most people would be impressed by a video of an elite oly lifter doing a full squat...a fat dude in a suit doing a partial not so much.
Although purely a matter of opinion, so probably not a point worth debating.
Zoot, for starters, based on the vid you already posted, you need to push your knees out more. Your hips have nowhere to move at the bottom of the squat. If you sit between your legs more, you will find it easier to hit depth without your back rounding. Slightly wider will also help.
Spread the feet and knees more to create a hole to sit into. Sitting back is obviously not working for you, you need to squat down not back.
From what I understand, forward knee travel in your case is not determined by anthropometry but by improper set-up at the beginning of the movement.
Start with a slightly wider stance, point your toes out 30 degrees. Start the squat by throwing your knees out wide, not forward. Ideally the knees should travel out, then lock in position (along with your back angle) about 1/3 of the way down. Concentrate on throwing your knees out, tracking them out over your toes, and locking them there as you sit down & lean forward into the hole. Squat shoes may also help.
Goblet squats with a wide stance...
Knees out, ass down. Bingo, depth
Zoot, this is basically what I learned to do. In fact, the only cue I mentally remind myself of before each set is "knees out", although it's second nature now.
Squatting down and not back means I get to depth OK.
Didn't even believe it until my coach showed me LOL
You don't really need a very wide stance to do that, just slightly wider than shoulder width probably. your adductors should not be overly taxed by it.
From the vid I can see heels coming up off the ground and hips translating forward as you reach your bottom position which causes your knees to do the same (more noticeable in the second rep). ... With your lack of mobility in the hips and ankle and it's going to pretty hard to make depth. Not impossible though.
First would be to see if you can hit depth on a front squat or a goblet squat. If you can hit depth with those then it's either something technical holding you back with your regular squat or a mobility issue.
so most importantly: Would this squat get passed in competition?
Yep...I reckon it would
BTW...That's a mean set of quads there Zoot...(a bit homo)
It will cost me 20-30 kilos that I'll need to claw back over time, so most importantly: Would this squat get passed in competition?
There are pro's and con's in general with both sitting back with shins vertical, or down with knees forward.
You need not worry yet, just keep it how it is mate.
There are pro's and con's in general with both sitting back with shins vertical, or down with knees forward.
You need not worry yet, just keep it how it is mate.
There is no "better" it comes down to the lifters strengths.
I believe shins vertical is better for the knees, but I definitely wouldn't be doing it in oly shoes.
Yep...I reckon it would
BTW...That's a mean set of quads there Zoot...(a bit homo)