I'm not. I'm just saying i train calves freqently and still get DOMS all the time but rarely in the quads or shoulders.Don't be a knob Shreky
I'm not. I'm just saying i train calves freqently and still get DOMS all the time but rarely in the quads or shoulders.
Same here unless I do incline curls. For some reason putting the bi in the stretch position induces DOMS.I never get shoulder doms. Rarely get Bi doms.
Same here unless I do incline curls. For some reason putting the bi in the stretch position induces DOMS.
That one time I squatted 60kg x161 reps. Farkin. Never been so sore from training veggie.
Doesn't mean you're not training properly at all. Just means you have exposed your muscles to a load above and beyond what they are used to.
It does.
DOMS is a result of doing a movement or exercise after a prolonged break, where the tendons, ligaments and bursar have been subjected to movements their <sic> not use to
minimal DOMS One should be exposing muscles to load (force) above and beyond what they are use to
Agreed.Nobody knows what causes DOMS, all we have at this juncture are theories, anyone saying that they know are tools.
what we know is that there are nerves in the muscle, but these particular nerves are not the nerves that identify pain.
so, the common excepted theory of the educated person is that DOMS is not a measure of muscle growth or its byproduct "strength".
DOMS is a result of doing a movement or exercise after a prolonged break, where the tendons, ligaments and bursar have been subjected to movements their not use to, as with everything you nimrods, the severity and duration of pain would be different from one person to the next.
the only true measure of growth is progression you dumb fucks.
nothing else is possible.
So which is it, nimrod?
It does.
Totally.
If one wants growth and minimal DOMS One should be exposing muscles to load (force) above and beyond what they are use to often and regularly.
According to what criteria does it mean you're not training 'properly'? Whether you are training each muscle specifically once per week, twice per week or twice every ten days you are still working each muscle regularly, although the frequency is varying. Growth can be achieved with all of these frequencies. What is 'optimum' for growth varies from person to person and depends on factors like recovery ability and training intensity. So again, aside from not having to put up with DOMS what general benefits are you espousing? There are too many absolute and blanket statements spat out around here.
The salient point Dark, Barry and I are making is;
(and the other two nimrods can say if I'm wrong)
Chasing DOMS for the measure of a hard workout is the wrong mind-set.
If you are experiencing DOMS after - let's say every workout, it will most likely be counter-productive to your goal.
I'm not posting here on this forum to just be Kunty, I truly like to help.
^ This I agree with. If you are getting DOMS to the point where it is inhibiting further training then yes, it is counter productive.
Bazzas assertion that if you are getting DOMS you are not training 'properly' is utter rubbish. There is no point in training with a frequency that inhibits your recovery just to avoid DOMS, just as there is no point in training specifically for the resulting DOMS. DOMS are a secondary phenomenon and will occur at different acuities for different people with different training styles, and as you yourself said, depend on a range of factors.
Train the muscle hard and frequet, and no more doms, eventually no more pump either, I'm just left with the crap tired, numb feeling in them and slightly sore joints..
Doesnt mean the muscle isnt growing, just feels shit......gimme the PUMP kunce, I'll put up with the doms.
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