Well, you came here for help.
Lets start again shall we? I can be civil. Mostly. I'm just hyper cynical these days, its getting worse with age.
Lets take a look at exactly what it is you guys have been doing?
What does training right mean with regards to the goal at hand?
What has the diet looked like?
Calories?
Macros?
Timing? (Far less important).
Lets get this information, and we can go from there.
Probably blocked me. Lol.
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