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You don't have to run hcg with test, many people just cruise on test year round. If your goal is maximum testicular size then yes you should run hcg with test. 100mg test pw will shut you down yes more so in your case cause your still producing test. Did you see an endo yet, i can't remember if you had results of your levels or not? It comes down to how much your producing now, and you are producing some test so you may only need 50mg supplemented test pw on top of your own to reach good healthy test levels.

TRT still has its point even if it shuts you down. You'll still feel better on TRT even if your shut down and your libido etc will still be strong.

ok thnx. havent seen endo yet no call from them.

my bloods are..

S TESTO: 19.8 ref (9-28)
S SHBG: 47 ref (17-56)
C FREE T: 345 ref (170-670)

and of fucking course!!! ESTROGEN NOT CHECKED!!! FUCK THIS PISSES ME OFF!!!

don really wan mebtion it here but my boys ain't that massiv.
also when i was a small child i ate a whole pack of my mums birth control pills because i thought they were candy. i know that's funny but its true and i think about it every day and she used to give me shit abot it for yeears.
 
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ok thnx. havent seen endo yet no call from them.

my bloods are..

S TESTO: 19.8 ref (9-28)
S SHBG: 47 ref (17-56)
C FREE T: 345 ref (170-670)

and of fucking course!!! ESTROGEN NOT CHECKED!!! FUCK THIS PISSES ME OFF!!!

don really wan mebtion it here but my boys ain't that massiv.
also when i was a small child i ate a whole pack of my mums birth control pills because i thought they were candy. i know that's funny but its true and i think about it every day and she used to give me shit abot it for yeears.

No worries. Looking at your results above your still producing quite a bit of test. Would be good to have a more thorough test done where it tests your LH, FSH, Estrogen, Prolactin, DHEA etc etc. You mentioned further down your going to get a full blood test, this will give you a better idea of what your dealing with.

Small balls are not uncommon mate. lol @ your mums birth control pills, thats funny shit!
 
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just been to iscreen collection centre now for anothrr test i just paid it for full hormon test 135$ they do all testo, dhea, estro, progest, prolactin etc
 
No worries. Looking at your results above your still producing quite a bit of test. Would be good to have a more thorough test done where it tests your LH, FSH, Estrogen, Prolactin, DHEA etc etc. You mentioned further down your going to get a full blood test, this will give you a better idea of what your dealing with.

Small balls are not uncommon mate. lol @ your mums birth control pills, thats funny shit!

yeah will get result in a few day.

in future i'll have to find a good GP and tell about any AAS/PED use becaus when i go on i have to have more regular tests and fuck paying 135$ every time.

yeah well would be nice bangin my girl in doggy and my balls smackin against her clam burger like in porn :D hopefully oen day...just gotta belief and achieve! :D
 
ok thnx. havent seen endo yet no call from them.

my bloods are..

S TESTO: 19.8 ref (9-28)
S SHBG: 47 ref (17-56)
C FREE T: 345 ref (170-670)

and of fucking course!!! ESTROGEN NOT CHECKED!!! FUCK THIS PISSES ME OFF!!!

don really wan mebtion it here but my boys ain't that massiv.
also when i was a small child i ate a whole pack of my mums birth control pills because i thought they were candy. i know that's funny but its true and i think about it every day and she used to give me shit abot it for yeears.

nothing wrong with your testosterone level
 
So you don't need it, you just want it.

Thread title is horribly misleading.

i don't want it if i don't truly need it but i want to feel good, energy and pain free which i have not for a long time. not sure what you're trying to get at? if anything..
mayb you don't know my health history and problems in the last 7 or so years i have mentioned a lot on here.
 
yeah will get result in a few day.

in future i'll have to find a good GP and tell about any AAS/PED use becaus when i go on i have to have more regular tests and fuck paying 135$ every time.

yeah well would be nice bangin my girl in doggy and my balls smackin against her clam burger like in porn :D hopefully oen day...just gotta belief and achieve! :D

Yeah there are some good gps around. I used to get heaps of tests done when i was younger, got full panel steroid BW etc and didn't pay a cent. $135 each time would get on my nerves as well.

I'm thinking about jumping back on hcg and kick starting my natty test, been shut down for a while now. Libido is through the roof as usuall but balls are not as big as they could be.
 
2nd blood test results...

Testosterone*14.3 nmol/L (range 6-28)

Free Testosterone*272 pmol/L (range 200-600)

SHBG*37 nmol/L (range 15-50)

DHEA-S*5.9 umol/L (range 2.2-12.4)

Oestradiol*167 pmol/L (range 50-150) HIGH

FSH*6 IU/L - (range 2-8)

LH*9 U/L - (range 2-8) HIGH

Progesterone*1.9 nmol/L (range 0.9-4.1)

Prolactin*187 mIU/L range (45-375)

above high estrogen and above high LH
 
Higher than my test. Usually between 9 and 12 for me. All the time.

Free test usually around 300.

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wow tim, just goes to show test levels are just one factor.

if it was all about test levels, why does a man have ten times more than a women yet does not lift ten times as much weight.

in fact, if you go on weight lifting records, men are noowhere near twice as strong,
 
TRT for most men is a big con that benefits the pharmo-medical complex, exploiting the body dysmorphia in middle aged men. Those who claim that TRT comprises weekly injections of sustanon 250 or stacking multiple anabolics need to dispense with the euphemisms and admit that it is nothing more than misuse of performance enhancing drugs.

If your dick doesn't work, chop it off or get a better looking partner (you might be gay and should probably consider batting for the other team to resolve this issue). If your energy levels are low, eat better and rest more. If your gym lifts are weak, train harder.
 
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TRT for most men is a big con that benefits the pharmo-medical complex, exploiting the body dysmorphia in middle aged men. Those who claim that TRT comprises weekly injections of sustanon 250 or stacking multiple anabolics need to dispense with the euphemisms and admit that it is nothing more than misuse of performance enhancing drugs.

If your dick doesn't work, chop it off or get a better looking partner (you might be gay and should probably consider batting for the other team to resolve this issue). If your energy levels are low, eat better and rest more. If your gym lifts are weak, train harder.
Right on big fella. Legit.



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with you on the better looking partner, never been a problem but can understand if they are not, not sure what some dudes expect banging pigs
TRT for most men is a big con that benefits the pharmo-medical complex, exploiting the body dysmorphia in middle aged men. Those who claim that TRT comprises weekly injections of sustanon 250 or stacking multiple anabolics need to dispense with the euphemisms and admit that it is nothing more than misuse of performance enhancing drugs.

If your dick doesn't work, chop it off or get a better looking partner (you might be gay and should probably consider batting for the other team to resolve this issue). If your energy levels are low, eat better and rest more. If your gym lifts are weak, train harder.
 
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