I've never like the full body approach and put on on 30kgs over the yeas with the split.
I don't believe it makes that much difference.
Train for your goal - the whole only train compound movements 3 days a week etc is pretty much reverse bro-science haha - Yes I believe a beginner should start out basic and branch off into other things BUT saying that as I mentioned train towards your goal....always try and include the 3/4 main lifts as much as possible but they are not going to make or break your results....
As a beginner consistency, volume, intensity, diet is the key - not the bench, squad, deadlift.....even though I think they should be include into most training programs or at least variations of - as I said they will not make or break you....
This 100%.
My opinion, looking back on 35 years of observation, smartest trainer I ever saw in bb terms was Gary Lewer. Could not give a fuck about big three exercises. He trained light, intense, and one of the best bbs Australia has ever produced.
Other top bbs, however, are consumed by the heavy weights mindset, and will always tell you how strong they are in the big two at least, bench and squats.
Boom..
My friend trained Sonny Schmidt, same story, Sonny never worried about big lifts, loved the peckdeck and isolation exercises and the kunce was a world calss BBer.
Many here use the term "lift", I dont, rather than using the muscle to lift the weight, I use the weight to train the muscle.
Still get strong, I still bench and squat reps with 3 plates on each side of the bar, but it was not my primary goal.
Sonny was an islander tho and those guys have great genetics for bodybuilding.The ones that ive seen and been around have big legs naturally.while the little half caste here has to spend countless hours torturing myself in the squat rack to get anything.they could probably walk past the gym on their way to kfc and put on muscle mass.
Train for your goal - the whole only train compound movements 3 days a week etc is pretty much reverse bro-science haha - Yes I believe a beginner should start out basic and branch off into other things BUT saying that as I mentioned train towards your goal....always try and include the 3/4 main lifts as much as possible but they are not going to make or break your results....
As a beginner consistency, volume, intensity, diet is the key - not the bench, squad, deadlift.....even though I think they should be include into most training programs or at least variations of - as I said they will not make or break you....
This 100%.
My opinion, looking back on 35 years of observation, smartest trainer I ever saw in bb terms was Gary Lewer. Could not give a fuck about big three exercises. He trained light, intense, and one of the best bbs Australia has ever produced.
Other top bbs, however, are consumed by the heavy weights mindset, and will always tell you how strong they are in the big two at least, bench and squats.
Grunta, are you Chris Ross?
Grunta, did you ever train at findlays or roccos' gym in Collingwood?
yes, I was there in 1988 and 1989, I am 53 now.
Roccos was a great gym.
Adrian kink was there, my best mate Dave Elliott met him there.
Was big Frank the guy who could bench 4-5 plates, and also a bouncer at esplanade. This Frank was quiet and friendly, but a tough guy.
Really curious about the first one - avoid isolation exercises. Now, if you want to get huge, I understand.
But what about if your aim is simply to add some shape? For example, if a reasonably skinny guy just focuses on biceps, pecs and maybe the tops of shoulders - wouldn't that make a noticeable difference?
OK, you're not going to get MASSIVE, but wouldn't that require less volume, less food and less time?
Asking for a friend...
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