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First I'd like to introduce myself my name is Ray and I live in melbourne im 23 and have always wanted to do bodybuilding. I have a decent natural build and am 6ft tall but it was only the last 2 months that I have seriously started looking at getting into shape and working toward the goals that have always just been a distant dream. I also love cars and bikes atm I have a 2008 mdl R1 and have had a list of cars probabley about 7-8 cars in the last few years 3 of which saw autosalon (so over that now), one to mention and my favorite was my r33 gtr made 375kw at all 4 and ran a 10.9... anyways like Markos was saying if you do get caught the expense to remove and put the parts back on just almost doesnt make it worth the hassle, now I have a bike that gives me all the thrill I need. Sorry that went a bit longer than expected now the part that I need to speak to you about.
I have started to get into shape by doing body for life which is a 12 week high
intesity workout program which I am doing with a PT, each day I strive to push maximum effort. So far im on my 7th week and the results have been outstanding which you expect as hardwork= good rewards.
My issue is in regards to Supplements and the so vast varying opinions and mindsets around them, I do understand that a supplement is just that a supplement to your exercise. When i started b4l i was told just to take a protein for the 1st month and then week 5 or so to get a creatine and a pre workout possibly and here is where it all began. Everyone I speak to has a very different view and here they are. ( Btw I started by using musashi p40 which i hated, so I tried myofusion and loved that. Now I have just bought Muscletech Creakic Hardcore as my creatine, and white flood by controlled labs as my preworkout and I also got Muscletech hydroxycut hard core I only just started the last 3 I mentioned thats why want some advice, even if it means throwing it out my health is more important than $300)
1. My PT he says only buy musashi and that all the USA stuff is crap and you dont know whats in it :S to the point where he told me that super pump has so much caffenine that it can make your kidney's fail. He says anything from pretty much anything other than Musashi stuff or a few aussie brands are all crap and will and can cause u harm.
2. The supplement shop, they say you can stack all the list mentioned above they swear that people are so happy with the muscletech creatine and the hydroxycut she said is really good with it to burn fat. Also the preworkout the said definetly superpump is good I got white flood just as I thought its better for you :s. They say all this stuff is good for you even a pro hormone is great and wont harm me? True or not who knows mind u this is at least 3 or 4 stores saying the same stuff.
3. My brother in law did body building for 2 years and he said dont waste your money on anything more than a protein and a creatine if you really want he says that the stuff that comes to AUST isnt as good as the USA as a lot of the effective substances are banned here. He said Roids works but its definetly not worth the health risk and I'm not planning on going down that path. All the other stuff is bullsh!t marketing and just eat natural food.
4. A doctor friend of mine she says you can take most of that stuff off the shelf it wont hurt you with the right amounts of course she said dont TOUCH pro horomones or anything like that as it will probabley stuff up your chances of having kids.
5. My Cousin in USA he is on Plasma jet, superpump, a protein, creatine and hes taking supremacy (epistane product I think possibly anabolic steriod) he looks great and swears by the products has no side effects or nothing and say that I should have no problem they are all good products and all his mates use them.
So here is my problem everyone says something different any help or info you could give me would be great. Hydroxy cut they want you to take 6 pills a day thats 6 coffees worth of caffine + who knows whats in there if it really ok to take? Does it even work? What would you guys recommend and whats your
experiences how can the number one selling product on the market be a useless product that doesnt work :S or how can it be bad for you and people come back for more with no side effects? Sorry for such a long post and if you have read this far I appreciate it, I know some of you on here have a great UNBIASED knowledge and experience anything you can help me with would be great. I dont care what it cost me financially to get the best product just as long as its good for me and will help increase results.
Btw I do have a well balanced diet I eat every 2-3 hours protein carbs and fats and all health option as part of b4l there pretty strict well I am on myself anyways.
Cheers
Ray
First I'd like to introduce myself my name is Ray and I live in melbourne im 23 and have always wanted to do bodybuilding. I have a decent natural build and am 6ft tall but it was only the last 2 months that I have seriously started looking at getting into shape and working toward the goals that have always just been a distant dream. I also love cars and bikes atm I have a 2008 mdl R1 and have had a list of cars probabley about 7-8 cars in the last few years 3 of which saw autosalon (so over that now), one to mention and my favorite was my r33 gtr made 375kw at all 4 and ran a 10.9... anyways like Markos was saying if you do get caught the expense to remove and put the parts back on just almost doesnt make it worth the hassle, now I have a bike that gives me all the thrill I need. Sorry that went a bit longer than expected now the part that I need to speak to you about.
I have started to get into shape by doing body for life which is a 12 week high
intesity workout program which I am doing with a PT, each day I strive to push maximum effort. So far im on my 7th week and the results have been outstanding which you expect as hardwork= good rewards.
My issue is in regards to Supplements and the so vast varying opinions and mindsets around them, I do understand that a supplement is just that a supplement to your exercise. When i started b4l i was told just to take a protein for the 1st month and then week 5 or so to get a creatine and a pre workout possibly and here is where it all began. Everyone I speak to has a very different view and here they are. ( Btw I started by using musashi p40 which i hated, so I tried myofusion and loved that. Now I have just bought Muscletech Creakic Hardcore as my creatine, and white flood by controlled labs as my preworkout and I also got Muscletech hydroxycut hard core I only just started the last 3 I mentioned thats why want some advice, even if it means throwing it out my health is more important than $300)
1. My PT he says only buy musashi and that all the USA stuff is crap and you dont know whats in it :S to the point where he told me that super pump has so much caffenine that it can make your kidney's fail. He says anything from pretty much anything other than Musashi stuff or a few aussie brands are all crap and will and can cause u harm.
2. The supplement shop, they say you can stack all the list mentioned above they swear that people are so happy with the muscletech creatine and the hydroxycut she said is really good with it to burn fat. Also the preworkout the said definetly superpump is good I got white flood just as I thought its better for you :s. They say all this stuff is good for you even a pro hormone is great and wont harm me? True or not who knows mind u this is at least 3 or 4 stores saying the same stuff.
3. My brother in law did body building for 2 years and he said dont waste your money on anything more than a protein and a creatine if you really want he says that the stuff that comes to AUST isnt as good as the USA as a lot of the effective substances are banned here. He said Roids works but its definetly not worth the health risk and I'm not planning on going down that path. All the other stuff is bullsh!t marketing and just eat natural food.
4. A doctor friend of mine she says you can take most of that stuff off the shelf it wont hurt you with the right amounts of course she said dont TOUCH pro horomones or anything like that as it will probabley stuff up your chances of having kids.
5. My Cousin in USA he is on Plasma jet, superpump, a protein, creatine and hes taking supremacy (epistane product I think possibly anabolic steriod) he looks great and swears by the products has no side effects or nothing and say that I should have no problem they are all good products and all his mates use them.
So here is my problem everyone says something different any help or info you could give me would be great. Hydroxy cut they want you to take 6 pills a day thats 6 coffees worth of caffine + who knows whats in there if it really ok to take? Does it even work? What would you guys recommend and whats your
experiences how can the number one selling product on the market be a useless product that doesnt work :S or how can it be bad for you and people come back for more with no side effects? Sorry for such a long post and if you have read this far I appreciate it, I know some of you on here have a great UNBIASED knowledge and experience anything you can help me with would be great. I dont care what it cost me financially to get the best product just as long as its good for me and will help increase results.
Btw I do have a well balanced diet I eat every 2-3 hours protein carbs and fats and all health option as part of b4l there pretty strict well I am on myself anyways.
Cheers
Ray
