Your muscles may remember that cycle you did in college...

[Goosey]

bloody cowboys read a few things on the internet, pin themselves a few times with drugs and kapow!, they're fucken experts on human physiology and chemistry


bazinga!

just thinking ed zachery the same.

but I would have just written ;

bloody cowboys read a few things on the internet, pin themselves a few times with drugs and kapow!, they're fucken experts

 

[Darkoz]

just thinking ed zachery the same.

but I would have just written ;

bloody cowboys read a few things on the internet, pin themselves a few times with drugs and kapow!, they're fucken experts

Yes much better

 

[zygote404]

Changes in muscle cells are long way off from altering a human's genes, which is what was claimed a few posts up.

Ahh yeah sorry m8 I missed the changing genetics comment.

 

[Darkoz]

Ahh yeah sorry m8 I missed the changing genetics comment.

No wucken forries

 

[0ni]

Darkoz is right here
And steroids really do have a permanent effect. The more you use and the longer you use them the more you'll get from them in the future. So even if you went back to being "natural", you'd get more from your own testosterone. Then there is all the increase in bone density and tendon strength you'd get too

 

[spartacus]

I have doubts about opening thread.

I know a lot of athletes who stopped taking PEDS and kept training, but their performances hardly get anywhere near what they were when using.

for myself, performance is the defining empirical tool here rather than structural change observations.

Ben Johnson, three years after being caught was running over 3% slower for 60m; he only came good again in 1992 but he failed drug tests for testosterone-epitestosterone ratio.

 

[zygote404]

I have doubts about opening thread.

I know a lot of athletes who stopped taking PEDS and kept training, but their performances hardly get anywhere near what they were when using.

for myself, performance is the defining empirical tool here rather than structural change observations.

Ben Johnson, three years after being caught was running over 3% slower for 60m; he only came good again in 1992 but he failed drug tests for testosterone-epitestosterone ratio.

They're not saying that having used steroids previously you're performance will be as good as someone using AAS when you go off. Basically they're saying if you used them once you're performance will be enhanced over someone who never used them at all.

This link is about the same study but it explains it better: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/steroids-boost-muscles-long-haul

 

[spartacus]

yes, I understand.

But, my feeling is that the advantage is minimal rather than profound.