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Spritcha
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You win oni. I'll tap out.
I'm off this forum and people can enjoy your comedy. I guess you know that you're 99% horseshit- and that's what you offer along with some laughs.
I'm personally not impressed. I prefer to convey my disappointment to people in person- but chances are we will not meet.
Enjoy.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I didn't even disagree with what you said
My entire argument was that it was completely silly
If you disagree that it's silly then cya later I guess
You seem to think that I am trolling you or disagreeing when I have not said anything contrary to what you have written
jj80
Member
You offer a hell of a lot of positive... Introduced some of us to RTS and Sheiko, and ideas we were unfamiliar with...
There are forums where people will be banned for a response which isn't punctuated correctly, or isn't tasteful. A reply which isn't thought out or is obviously intended to troll = an instant ban. Fortunately and unfortunately this isn't one of them...
The thoughts and statements of people about PA in this thread is (somewhat) surprising to me, in a very good way. I had no idea the testing was that involved. So I learnt something, even if it was brought about by trolling...
0ni
Registered Rustler
Just stay out the stupid threads if you don't like them
>demonstrate how stupid the thread is
>people continue to debate the points I am making to me despite me saying how stupid it is
>offer counter debates to both parties to demonstrate how stupid it is
>people get pissy and quit the internets
Whatever, I'm out
>demonstrate how stupid the thread is
>people continue to debate the points I am making to me despite me saying how stupid it is
>offer counter debates to both parties to demonstrate how stupid it is
>people get pissy and quit the internets
Whatever, I'm out
Jesus Christ.
Do people actually care if someone accuses you of steroids. If you are not using take it as a bloody compliment and get on with life. If you are in tested competition, have a laugh and keep getting clean tests. Saying you are going to sue someone is fucking ridiculous.
Do people actually care if someone accuses you of steroids. If you are not using take it as a bloody compliment and get on with life. If you are in tested competition, have a laugh and keep getting clean tests. Saying you are going to sue someone is fucking ridiculous.
0ni
Registered Rustler
It was a joke
0ni
Registered Rustler
jj80
Member
Very few people are amused by this guy. There is an ignore function somewhere in this user interface. Recommend you use it.
If you abandon this forum completely it will be a shame, contributions on strength training discussions from informed and experienced people are rare here.
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spartacus
Well-known member
Jesus, first day on for a while and now this.
I hope SP stays, as already mentioned.
But, i cant see what Oni says is that bad. No one is forced to debate him. Just tell him he may be a moron at times and move on.
Oni corrected himself to declare he was not accusing, and also indicated he knew PA lifters cheating.
Truth or lies, who cares.
Oni can be sued if he pushes it too far, but that is his choice.
I hope SP stays, as already mentioned.
But, i cant see what Oni says is that bad. No one is forced to debate him. Just tell him he may be a moron at times and move on.
Oni corrected himself to declare he was not accusing, and also indicated he knew PA lifters cheating.
Truth or lies, who cares.
Oni can be sued if he pushes it too far, but that is his choice.
Spritcha
New member
Like I said- it's not just an intellectual debate- if you say you'd be silly if you thought PA guys are not on drugs etc- you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see how that casts a shadow over lifters- particularly the top guys. If you know something then fine- be specific- but if you are just talking hypotheticals understand it reflects on people. I can and do often ignore this but it has concrete implications for people like me. Like what- more random drug tests, visits at 6am, questioning- even questioning by police. So yes it pisses me off. Do I get targeted? Yes? Why- I have been told one reason is so called intelligence gathered from forums. So- this is why I say ask yourself whether you have any good reason to suggest that PA guys might be on drugs. I'm not- but this shit makes my life more difficult. So ignore- I guess that's the option I must take here.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I'm coming back into the chat just to post that this is exactly why I do not compete in a drug tested federation
HSVJake
New member
Got to say after working through these last few pages I am interested in joining the PA when I get my lifts up. Good on you guys for not taking shit tonight from the stirrers.
spartacus
Well-known member
That is fair enough. It sure would be a fucking pain with such an extent of drug testing being as good as you are.
My opinion is that you are one of the greatest Aust powerlifters of all time to win an IPF raw world medal in this day and age where it is still clear that not all nations adhere to the same rules and testing standards.
You are also testimony to what can be achieved without drugs. You deserve much greater media interest.
My opinion is that you are one of the greatest Aust powerlifters of all time to win an IPF raw world medal in this day and age where it is still clear that not all nations adhere to the same rules and testing standards.
You are also testimony to what can be achieved without drugs. You deserve much greater media interest.
NAPARM
New member
1. Unless you are with a person every minute of every day you do not know for a fact that they are drug free (even if they are your friend)
2. Anyone who even thinks about suing someone because they accused you of being on the gear is an absolute tool
3. Having an elitist attitude because you are natural is pretty stupid
That is all
2. Anyone who even thinks about suing someone because they accused you of being on the gear is an absolute tool
3. Having an elitist attitude because you are natural is pretty stupid
That is all
1. Unless you are with a person every minute of every day you do not know for a fact that they are drug free (even if they are your friend)
2. Anyone who even thinks about suing someone because they accused you of being on the gear is an absolute tool
3. Having an elitist attitude because you are natural is pretty stupid
That is all
Very well said.
I'm getting sick of some posts consistently carrying on about how awesome they are coz they train natural.
jj80
Member
When speculation affects people directly and it's done on no basis it's pretty low.
I actually don't mind people stating their lifts and stating they're natural... Take pride in your achievements. There certainly is a big difference between (say) a double bodyweight bench done with and without 'assistance'. It's not necessarily throwing shit on those that choose the other path, either.
I actually don't mind people stating their lifts and stating they're natural... Take pride in your achievements. There certainly is a big difference between (say) a double bodyweight bench done with and without 'assistance'. It's not necessarily throwing shit on those that choose the other path, either.
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