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Debate: Kipping Pull ups Vs. Dead Hang

kaz

kaz

iLift
Both exercises have their benefits and hold a place in strength and Conditioning. But which one is really better?

Kipping Pull ups have been made infamous by Crossfitters, while the Dead Hand Pull ups is well renowned by athletes, coaches, trainers and trainees for building upper body strength.

I've always believed that you should learn pull ups from a dead hang first, as the momentum needed in Kipping pull ups is far more sophisticated, and takes a full body of coordination to complete.

Is using momentum to complete a pull up cheating, or does the hip snap and use of full body of the "Kip" radiate it away from being a strength exercise, but more of a full body conditioning exercise?

Where do Kipping pullups belong? Chances are not in the body building world, and not with those who have pre existing shoulder and back injuries? So is a kipping pull up just a matter of preference?

I'm all for kipping pull ups, and yes I can do pull ups from a dead hang, my preference is to Kip, and I'm proud :)


Argue away.......
 
This is a debate?

I can see some benefit in kipping as a conditioning exercise but in every other way including strength, hypertrophy, injury prevention, dead hang pullups are far superior.

I think its best not to even compare the two as they are vastly different things.
 
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I wouldn't know a kipping pull up until I walked past the chin bar and someone kicked me in the head but it sounds like a way for people who can't do pull ups to do pull ups. All this talk of momentum and hip snaps just sounds like swinging your dumbell curls.

If it gets sedentary people moving then it's a good thing but it doesn't sound like it has much place in a serious training regimen.
 
I must admit i did not know what they were until very recently. I might try one day so i can partake in the debate.
 
dead hang ftw. kipping is for pussies who cant chin lol
thats like asking, deadlifting and letting the bar rest between reps, or catching the bounce to cheat the first 6 inches
 
Hammo, you will look strange doing a kipping pull up lol ;)
DarkOz, just checked, its in the right section! Not a very good debatable argument for or against ;)
 
deep said:
Both are proper exercises, but are for different uses.....
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No they are not deep.

Please explain the benefits of the Kipping pull up as a safe movement to improve movement and strengthening the muscle of the back and shoulder.
 
Kipping Pull ups are for full body strength and conditioning

Strict pull up from a dead hang is primarily for building direct upper body strength
 
deep tried to do it the first time she was at my gym. She got through one and I told her to get off and promise to never taint the gym again. LOL
 
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