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Cutting and Bulking diet examples please?
And the Ugly
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But it will still result in weight loss, if it's under the maintenance calories.
Ok, yes, for us body composition is the goal, not just "weight" loss.
So the only difference is that we need plenty of protein, along with the calorie deficit. The non-protein calories can come from wherever, and the effect will be the same.
Calories and protein are the most important things, everything else, much, much less important.
I never said it was ideal for health, it just works. If you get enough protein as well, it will work as well as any other diet for body composition.
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Haha, I had no idea whether you were agreeing with me or not, so I checked some of your previous posts and I think I know now
And the Ugly
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Mmm, even if if that was the truth, why? Other than proving a point, would you choose to be unhealthy and lean?
I wouldn't support it and I certainly wouldn't start threads encouraging normal people to persue it. I think its a bad outlook.
Even if it doesn't affect you now you'll see it in the future.
I'm not advising anyone to pursue a diet of junk and protein shakes. But if they want to have a pizza or piece of cake every now and then, I'm saying it won't hurt them if they account for the calories.
labz2233
New member
haha, leechy,
tried that calorieking site... This is my recommended diet..
My BMI says im overweight, fair call, but it also wants me somewhere between 67 and 88kg... this wont ever happen...
Calories 1901 cals
Kilojoules 7984.2Kjs
Carbs 233g
Fat 57g
Just found that a bit funny thats all... not being rude
tried that calorieking site... This is my recommended diet..
My BMI says im overweight, fair call, but it also wants me somewhere between 67 and 88kg... this wont ever happen...
Calories 1901 cals
Kilojoules 7984.2Kjs
Carbs 233g
Fat 57g
Just found that a bit funny thats all... not being rude
jet
New member
Our primary goal should be fat loss and not weight loss. Plenty of people lose weight by simply reducing calories, its not rocket science, but if we want fat loss then the Macro nutrient make up is important. There are also other benefits of having carbs less than 20% on a diet.
Iron Addict:
"Calories are NOT calories. You can gain fat while being on an under maintenance caloric level by simply having your macro nutrient profiles screwed up. I read a very well conducted study recently where they took over 1500 people and put them on a diet that was 1000 calories below maintenance levels and the primary macro-nutrient was fructose. The vast majority of the people actually GAINED bodyfat while eating 1000 calories less than maintenance levels. The scale weight went down, and when they tested body composition they determined the people had lost a lot of muscle while actually storing more bodyfat. Without going into diet details as this is not what this article is for, the simple take home message is carbs are not your friend on a fat loss diet. That is not conjecture, just basic physiology."
And the Ugly
New member
Right, so if you're 90 someting kilos at 20% then a lean 88 sounds about right.
Once afuckinggain I'd like to thank ausbb.com for complicating nutrition.
As long as you're getting your calories/macros right on a regular basis it doesnt matter what you eat. If all you eat is mcdonalds then NO you're obviously not going to get your calories/macros right but if you're occasionally fudging them a little by eating junk food x2 a week its not going to mean shit in the long term.
Theoretically if someone makes their calories/macros entirely out of mcdonalds are they going to be healthy? no, their micronutrition will be fucked but nobody eats only mcdonalds, and if they do they have a rare psychological disorder that needs to be rectified.
As long as you're getting your calories/macros right on a regular basis it doesnt matter what you eat. If all you eat is mcdonalds then NO you're obviously not going to get your calories/macros right but if you're occasionally fudging them a little by eating junk food x2 a week its not going to mean shit in the long term.
Theoretically if someone makes their calories/macros entirely out of mcdonalds are they going to be healthy? no, their micronutrition will be fucked but nobody eats only mcdonalds, and if they do they have a rare psychological disorder that needs to be rectified.
Macros? Please explain
And the Ugly
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haha, that's true. They're the three different components to any food : Protein / carbs / fats. The only other things are vitamins and minerals.
God don't anyone get all specific on me.
I think to make it easy I'll just put my diet into calorie king every day and try to stay at 2000 calories using lean red meat, fish, chicken, Turkey, oats, multigrain bread and pasta, basmati rice and vegetables. That should ensure I stay healthy and lose some weight.
Today was an interresting day, I went over my target by a thousand calories from beer and junk food. But hey thats what Australia day is about
And the Ugly
New member
I think to make it easy I'll just put my diet into calorie king every day and try to stay at 2000 calories using lean red meat, fish, chicken, Turkey, oats, multigrain bread and pasta, basmati rice and vegetables. That should ensure I stay healthy and lose some weight.
Today was an interresting day, I went over my target by a thousand calories from beer and junk food. But hey thats what Australia day is about
Haha, true, the rum definitely did me in today.
If you stick with that diet mate you'll be lean and healthy. It's harder to construct something to meet a specific need, but lean and healthy is easy.
leachy
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If you read my post properly you would see that I said to google "maintainance calories" and use calorie king for your calories. I am also overweight according to my bmi, but the bmi is a fucked equation created by lazy doctors.