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The Dark Side

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BiggySmalls

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Hello Guys/Gals

I am new to this forum but have been lifting for 10 years on/off and now wish to join the Dark Side.

I will be reading through this Forum over the next few weeks to get the most information I possibly can (what steroids, how much and PCT).

But just to kick it off I was wondering what the Vets do in terms of running Nolvadex throughout the cycle, some people seem to think its the way to go and others believe it effects the cycle in terms of gains.

Just after some thoughts.

Cheers
 
BiggySmalls said:
Hello Guys/Gals

I am new to this forum but have been lifting for 10 years on/off and now wish to join the Dark Side.

I will be reading through this Forum over the next few weeks to get the most information I possibly can (what steroids, how much and PCT).

But just to kick it off I was wondering what the Vets do in terms of running Nolvadex throughout the cycle, some people seem to think its the way to go and others believe it effects the cycle in terms of gains.

Just after some thoughts.

Cheers
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Wassupp Brutha!!

Glad to hear your joining the darkside man, fuck the other side dude, you get nowhere being natural man, plus once you get in the darkside you become a blood sucking vampire like me and you only sleep 1 hour a night haha!!

Some guys do like say 10mg or 20mg nolva ed whilst on cycle, but they generally prefer to run an AI like dex, letro or arom. Nolva probably does kick in a little quicker so if you experience gyno sides etc then you can throw back some nolvas and also start some low dosed AI, then after a couple of days you can drop the nolva but continue with the AI throughout the cycle or as needed.

If you do cut estro back too far then yes it will definitely hinder gains.
 
Hey Juice

Thanks for the quick response! It seems the PCT is the most confusing thing to get right.

I am looking at a test only cycle (maybe run the Nolva at 10mg) and follow with a PCT Clomid, Dex/letro not sure, and really keen to also do a little Clen.

I am all natural except about 4 years ago I used Clen (the gel) with amazing results, lost weight and gained a little.

Anyways like I said I will try and figure these things out over the next few weeks.

Cheers for the help
 
Get bloods done and pick dosages based on that instead of guessing like an idiot lol
 
So your suggesting starting the cycle and then getting bloods done to see my estrongen conversion and then Pick the amount of Nova/clomid needed based on that?

Ok fair enough and good advice. Not being an idiot because I have not done it yet, these things take time to figure through.
 
BiggySmalls said:
Hello Guys/Gals

I am new to this forum but have been lifting for 10 years on/off and now wish to join the Dark Side.

I will be reading through this Forum over the next few weeks to get the most information I possibly can (what steroids, how much and PCT).

But just to kick it off I was wondering what the Vets do in terms of running Nolvadex throughout the cycle, some people seem to think its the way to go and others believe it effects the cycle in terms of gains.

Just after some thoughts.

Cheers
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Letrozole is fantastic! its friggin powerful though, if you run too much you will fuck your sex drive, lower your immune system & have sore joints - seems we dudes still need a little bit of girly hormone floating about!!! start at 2.5mg for a week or two then lower by .5 each passing week until you are at .25mg or so you want to find a lowest possible effective dose. Good luck Dude & enjoy the fine art of chemical engineering!
 
Hey Jeff

Thanks for the advice, starting to read up on Letro now. Going to also have a chat with the dr next week about doing the bloods.

Cheers
 
BiggySmalls said:
Hey Juice

Thanks for the quick response! It seems the PCT is the most confusing thing to get right.

I am looking at a test only cycle (maybe run the Nolva at 10mg) and follow with a PCT Clomid, Dex/letro not sure, and really keen to also do a little Clen.

I am all natural except about 4 years ago I used Clen (the gel) with amazing results, lost weight and gained a little.

Anyways like I said I will try and figure these things out over the next few weeks.

Cheers for the help
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Hey Smalls, wassup in this bitch ma nigga??

Well pct for me isn't confusing cause i just don't come off lol, so if you plan on coming off then thats your problem buddy lmfao!!

Why not try something simple yet effective like say Test E @ 500mg pw for 8 to 12 weeks, just play it by ear and see how you feel.

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Get bloods done and pick dosages based on that instead of guessing like an idiot lol
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I don't see what blood work has to do with using gear, either way your gona juice it up in this mofo fo sho, who gives a flying fuck what your blood work says lol! You guys sound like a bunch of pussy's aye, guess your misses wears the pants in your relationship lol!
 
I seriously hope the last two comments were satirical
Huurrr I can't recommend someone gets blood results done before, during and after because I'm 70kg durrr
 
Dont get blood tests!!! Go in blind!!!
Who cares about their endocrine system anyway???
 
Ok guys calm down, I think he is only joking.


Back on subject

Has anyone also used Peptides for PCT to help keep the gains made. Seems like a pretty good plan considering the price for the peps. Any reason not to?
 
BiggySmalls said:
Ok guys calm down, I think he is only joking.


Back on subject

Has anyone also used Peptides for PCT to help keep the gains made. Seems like a pretty good plan considering the price for the peps. Any reason not to?
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Honestly I would go to another board for hormone advice
Professional Muscle is very good. Lots of people there have switched to low dose AAS and using more peptides. Much healthier as well IMO. Quite a few threads about people doing HRT doses of test after their cycle and introducing IGF + MGF and being biggest, hardest, leanest etc they have ever been
 
tasgymbrah said:
If you have used aas and are still only 70kg then you know sweet f all about the subject, just sayin.
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^lols i must agree, unless you're a midget, 70kg seems underweight... do you even have enough muscle thickness to inject into???
 
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