Thank you! I was thinking the same thing after reading that bs post
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Thank you! I was thinking the same thing after reading that bs post
0ni
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raw strength is very movement specific
If you follow the Westside template, I see nothing wrong with paused squats on DE day for 10x2 or a 5RM and rotating max effort exercises though. You should just be getting in lots of volume in the competition lift on DE day then just doing what feels good on ME day and just getting stronger all over
If you follow the Westside template, I see nothing wrong with paused squats on DE day for 10x2 or a 5RM and rotating max effort exercises though. You should just be getting in lots of volume in the competition lift on DE day then just doing what feels good on ME day and just getting stronger all over
Bench Polkov
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Sweet fucking shit what is this drivel. There's some dumb shit posted in this thread but this really takes the cake.
Essentially that is what I do... Bench, deadlift and squat once a week (including other compound exercises) and only sometimes I might mix up my assistance exercises. My routine is almost identical from week to week, to the point where it almost bores me to death. I just try to up the weights, the amount of reps or speed. I don't know whether I am doing the right thing or not but looking in the mirror seems to tell me otherwise. I never know whether or not I can be doing things better...
With respect to size and strength, in my experience, I have made very little in the way of progress lifting light with lots of reps. I have gone in leaps and bounds only when lifting heavy... but I thought that was common knowledge...
Bench Polkov
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Which programs are you considering? Many can be adjusted so that you can still have some sort of hypertrophy focus on the side as your lifts go up.
jj80
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Freako can I ask your advice - I want a strength program focussing on increasing chin up, military press, and bench press strength until my lower back recovers from injury and I can squat/dead again.
At the moment I just do chins 1 day, and bench/militaries another. I just do low reps on each exercise for about 5 sets, and take a weeks break between workouts. I throw in some assistance work each workout for arms.
Could you suggest a better program? Or some good resources for 'general strength programming'? I can find sheiko and stuff online easily enough but they are focussed on powerlifting lifts only.
Bench Polkov
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Pocket_size
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Been looking into the doug hepburn method... could possibly adapt so suit my purpose...
Bench Polkov
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I was going to suggest 5/3/1 progression as well. Just do the 5/3/1 mainlift and accessory then add your pump stuff as assistance after, but the same could also be done with the Hepburn Method as well.
Bench Polkov
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Train hard, train consistently and keep training. Amen.
Sick and tired of the whole militant bb'ing vs PLing stuff, it breeds stupidity. If you want to excel at one, incorporate some methods from the other, and benefit from the best of both worlds.
There are plenty of examples of people around who have managed to simultaneously achieve at both. Being strong doesn't mean you have to eat shit and be a fat fuck, being aesthetic doesn't mean you have to be a weak stick. You can be both strong AND ripped.
OP, if you don't want to do PL-specific training, I would suggest you have a look at 531, it can be applied very effectively for bb'ing goals.
5/3/1 and Bodybuilding - JimWendler.com
Another good one is Layne Norton's dual periodisation program: Mega Feature: Layne Norton Training Series + Full Power/Hypertrophy Routine (Updated 2011) | SimplyShredded.com
Pretty much. I'm glad you are enthusiastic about your lifting and coach, that's definantely a good thing. However, your posts indicate a lack of understanding of fundamental concepts by incorrect use of meaningless bb'ing jargon. If you wish to be taken seriously, learn to express yourself properly and use the appropriate language.
There are plenty of examples of people around who have managed to simultaneously achieve at both. Being strong doesn't mean you have to eat shit and be a fat fuck, being aesthetic doesn't mean you have to be a weak stick. You can be both strong AND ripped.
OP, if you don't want to do PL-specific training, I would suggest you have a look at 531, it can be applied very effectively for bb'ing goals.
5/3/1 and Bodybuilding - JimWendler.com
Another good one is Layne Norton's dual periodisation program: Mega Feature: Layne Norton Training Series + Full Power/Hypertrophy Routine (Updated 2011) | SimplyShredded.com
Pretty much. I'm glad you are enthusiastic about your lifting and coach, that's definantely a good thing. However, your posts indicate a lack of understanding of fundamental concepts by incorrect use of meaningless bb'ing jargon. If you wish to be taken seriously, learn to express yourself properly and use the appropriate language.
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pumpiniron
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I apoligise for my out bursts. But honestly, if a bodybuilder comes on here asking for advice, shouldnt you direct him to a very good bodybuilding coach or a very experienced bodybuilder. You give him powerlifting and str advice? Your going outside your area of expertise. You say im full of crap and dont know what im talking about, the things i am saying i did not come up with> all that shit i have said comes from a very high ranked coached that has trained with the best of the best to olympia level right down to amatuars, he has coached over 300 champions and turned nobodys into guys that look near as good as lazar angelov. You cant say his methods dont work*look at his client section*. Yes all training will lead to muscle mass, and any training is certainly better then sitting on the couch eating crap and getting fat like all of the other losers out there. But you need to realise theres a gap between bodybuilding training and powerlifting, yes both do alot of the same exercises, but the style of training is way different. So next time a bodybuilder, comes on here> even if its in the str training section direct them to someone that has the bodybuilding knowledge and no im not saying direct them to me, I still have a lot to learn, but i have read all of scott abels books and from what i read he says training for 1rm str is the last thing you wanna do if ur training for hypertrophy and muscle gains.
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