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If you only could do ONE exercise for each muscle, what would that be?
spartacus
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deadlifts for biceps? better doing chin-ups or pullups, at least for biceps.
Here is a 590 pound deadlift from a guy with small arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2jBBm2zrlA
Here is a 590 pound deadlift from a guy with small arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2jBBm2zrlA
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strong enough?
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I agree with you, but the irony is that, having trained with Nghiep, his program, which he used for many many years, includes both bicep curls and chins. He just has a wirey Viet build.
strong enough?
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EMG studies have proven that glute activation in heavy squats is much much lower than other exercises. Doesn't matter whether they are front squat, high bar, low bar or zercher (although Zercher is the best of that lot). Don't get me wrong, squats require strong glutes to maintain a proper back angle, but they are not the limiting factor. Quad, hammy and/or back strength generally are.
Deadlift relies more on glutes and hammies than squats.
For glutes, I would select hip thrusts or GHR (with bands), or single leg hip extensions. I'm going to say barbell hip thrusts, as they are the easiest to load up.
For hammies, definitely GHR.
Deadlift relies more on glutes and hammies than squats.
For glutes, I would select hip thrusts or GHR (with bands), or single leg hip extensions. I'm going to say barbell hip thrusts, as they are the easiest to load up.
For hammies, definitely GHR.
Goosey
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EMG studies can go fuck themselves.
How much movement around the hip is there in the squat compared to the deadlift?
Both the deadlift and squat are wonderful hip strengthening exercises.
strong enough?
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If the thread was "what one exercise would you choose if you could only choose one", I would pick the squat, with deadlift coming second.
But that's not the question.
Range of motion does not necessarily determine the degree of force that is placed on a muscle/muscle group. Time under tension or power maybe, but not the ability to generate force, ie strength. There is more hip hinge in a conventional deadlift than a squat, but more importantly the load is more forward and well below the hip, meaning there is more torque on the hip than in a squat. It makes perfect sense.
In a deadlift the loading if shifted onto the hammies for the same reason, whereas in squat, the loading shifts more to the quads, due to the more upright position.
But in both instances, the glutes, as a group, are not pushed to nearly the same degree as many other exercises. I feel a 50kg hip thrust in the glutes much more than a 150kg squat. For individual glute muscles the effect is even greater. A 1RM squat will not work your glute medius nearly as much as a clamshell with moderate band tension.
But that's not the question.
Range of motion does not necessarily determine the degree of force that is placed on a muscle/muscle group. Time under tension or power maybe, but not the ability to generate force, ie strength. There is more hip hinge in a conventional deadlift than a squat, but more importantly the load is more forward and well below the hip, meaning there is more torque on the hip than in a squat. It makes perfect sense.
In a deadlift the loading if shifted onto the hammies for the same reason, whereas in squat, the loading shifts more to the quads, due to the more upright position.
But in both instances, the glutes, as a group, are not pushed to nearly the same degree as many other exercises. I feel a 50kg hip thrust in the glutes much more than a 150kg squat. For individual glute muscles the effect is even greater. A 1RM squat will not work your glute medius nearly as much as a clamshell with moderate band tension.
Goosey
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Are you telling me that, force, speed and strength are not related?
Goosey
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This speed of movement thing is so controversial
Prior to the 40's the term physical culturalist was common and although there where to divisions the ones looking for symmetry and the other Olympic lifters both shared the same background.
It wasn't until bodybuilding became more acceptable in the fifties that the division grew.
Through the 60's and 70's the division between bodybuilding and Olympic lifting became complete.
The "mirror" athletes were criticized by the lifters as having useless muscles, the lifters were seen as cows or guys who lifted by trickery.
Prior to the 40's the term physical culturalist was common and although there where to divisions the ones looking for symmetry and the other Olympic lifters both shared the same background.
It wasn't until bodybuilding became more acceptable in the fifties that the division grew.
Through the 60's and 70's the division between bodybuilding and Olympic lifting became complete.
The "mirror" athletes were criticized by the lifters as having useless muscles, the lifters were seen as cows or guys who lifted by trickery.
Darkoz
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My question was a rhetorical one
Goosey
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Edzacary.
It's were the most power is generated, a big arse, means a lot of power.
Narrow shoulder, wide hip, thick thigh, small calve, you are built for speed.
Delts - BB OHP
Chest - Flat Bench Press
Quads - BB Front Squats
Abs - Hanging Leg Raise
Back - BB Deadlifts
ham - SLDL
Glutes - Low bar squats
Biceps - BB Curl
Triceps - Dips
Lats - BB Row
Due to injuries/pains/laziness or lack of equipment I don't do Abs, biceps or triceps directly.
They are not lacking or bad, but I won't win any BB comps with them. lol
The rest I do throughout the week the best that I can.
Chest - Flat Bench Press
Quads - BB Front Squats
Abs - Hanging Leg Raise
Back - BB Deadlifts
ham - SLDL
Glutes - Low bar squats
Biceps - BB Curl
Triceps - Dips
Lats - BB Row
Due to injuries/pains/laziness or lack of equipment I don't do Abs, biceps or triceps directly.
They are not lacking or bad, but I won't win any BB comps with them. lol
The rest I do throughout the week the best that I can.