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Help with overhead press

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Big Dave

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Just wanting to get some opinions on an issue I'm having on ohp.

Currently I'm doing 3x11 ohp at 35kg. Rest is 2-2.5 minutes between sets.

The first 2 sets are always fine, no real issues with the last rep on the 2nd set requiring a little effort, yet on the third set I'm struggling by rep 4-6 with my arms feeling really sluggish.

Now I managed an easy single for 70kg in the gym the other week so based on the percentages this weight shouldn't be an issue, so why would it feel so hard on the 3rd set?


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I would think your arms are just getting fatigued, do you OHP press as the first exercise of the day or is it at the end after other exercises have been done?
 
Doesn't sound that off. I can OHP 75kg with a wide grip, my work sets for 10s would probably be 45kg. I can press 80-85kg with a narrower grip. Was your grip the same? It sounds slightly off but not by that much.

If you're doing chest the day before it may influence it (bench press). I wouldnt worry too much, the main thing is that it's hard, a lot of work and you get better over time. Also, stretching is important for overhead press, do a 'cat stretch' often - google it.
 
[MENTION=16726]Big Dave[/MENTION];

I find the press a funny animal. About a 1/3 of the way up as the bar passes your nose it should start travelling back. The aim is to let your back takeover some of the load.

You want to finish the press with your arms inline with your ears not with the bar in front of you.

Try letting your back do more of the work and let me know how you go.

Could also just be a buildup of lactic acid
 
Brick said:
[MENTION=16726]Big Dave[/MENTION];

I find the press a funny animal. About a 1/3 of the way up as the bar passes your nose it should start travelling back. The aim is to let your back takeover some of the load.

You want to finish the press with your arms inline with your ears not with the bar in front of you.

Try letting your back do more of the work and let me know how you go.

Could also just be a buildup of lactic acid
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Thanks Brick, this is where I think I'm going wrong!
 
Brick said:
[MENTION=16726]Big Dave[/MENTION];

I find the press a funny animal. About a 1/3 of the way up as the bar passes your nose it should start travelling back. The aim is to let your back takeover some of the load.

You want to finish the press with your arms inline with your ears not with the bar in front of you.

Try letting your back do more of the work and let me know how you go.

Could also just be a buildup of lactic acid
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This reads about right.
Just to add, "poke the head through the hole"

Don't know about the lactic acid bit though.

Another option, is doing this before the squat, when the back is fresh.
 
I find that, generally, my performance on the 3rd set will drop. So often you hit 10-12 on the first set or two, but the third just tapers off. I've started taking account of it lately and I will just reduce the weight by 2.5kg per side, for example, so that the reps don't decrease too far.
 
some questions...

Why are you taking 2 - 2.5 minutes rest? what is the purpose of timing your rest when you are trying to get strong-er?

Why are you doing 11 reps? like why 11? is that 1 extra after 10 supposed to do something?
is it as good as 12 reps? just an odd number to choose.
 
3*11@45kg = total tonnage of 1485kg @ 63% intensity.

5*50kg = 250kg
5*52.5kg = 262.5kg
5*55kg = 275kg
1*57.5kg = 57.5kg
1*60 = 60kg
1*62.5kg=62.5kg
1*65kg = 65kg
1*67.5kg=67.5kg
1*70kg = 70kg

= total tonnage of 1170kg @ average intensity of closer to 90%.

Which one do you think will make you stronger? If you want more volume do a few back off sets. If your aim is to be strong, then pressing 45kg is not the way to go about it.
 
lkt004 said:
Why do 3 sets of eleven? Why not do 3*5 then 6 singles? You will move more weight at a higher intensity.
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11 sets of 3 would be better.

Triples build strength the best.

Doing shitloads of triples is like taking dbol & eating chicken wings at the same time it's so anabolic it's practically cheating.
 
Thats 3 sets of 5, not 5 sets of three.

I do not know many people that can do 11 triples @ any decent percentage.
 
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