Thanks mate but I have sorted my initial troubles out anyway, I was using shit barbells and the lack of grip (nearly smooth bar) was mostly the culprit. I did buy the captains of crush in the number 1s and 2s and have been using them along with my new texas (chainsaw lol) power bar doing deadlifts and finger/wrist curls. I can now shut the 2s with ease with both hands, thats 195 pounds, so I'm getting a better grip.