[h=2]Does anyone think the gym you use reflects upon the results you get? By that I mean if you train a proper hardcore hellhole surrounded by monsters you will become one too and if you train in somewhere like fitness first, you'll end up looking like a pretty boy?[/h]
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El Testicle
Goat that feeling
^ what he said.
It also comes down to gear available. Your less likely to find the traditional range of plate loaded machines at a fitness first establishment and more equipment geared toward your 'meat head' gym goer at the corrugated shed type establishment that we've all encountered at some stage or another.
It also comes down to gear available. Your less likely to find the traditional range of plate loaded machines at a fitness first establishment and more equipment geared toward your 'meat head' gym goer at the corrugated shed type establishment that we've all encountered at some stage or another.
Rugby88
I have Ep1c Calendar kunce
Of course it can - but it also comes down to the individual - some people just dont have that motivation to take themselves to the next level - if they dont have this then it doesnt matter the gym you train in.
I have seen 1st hand though people changing to better gyms/better environments and getting much greater results.
I have seen 1st hand though people changing to better gyms/better environments and getting much greater results.
Goosey
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If ever there was a secret to to all this, I think it's working out with people that that inspire you to work harder than you personally thought possible to.
I've stated before that a "proper" workout will look downright scary to an onlooker.
So, for a beginner, I think that more often than not, places like fitness first and the like are a bad idea if someone wants to biuld muscle safely and slowly.
I think once you've done a handful of proper workouts that leave you on lying on the floor and you continue that work ethic, then whatever gym you visit won't matter
I've stated before that a "proper" workout will look downright scary to an onlooker.
So, for a beginner, I think that more often than not, places like fitness first and the like are a bad idea if someone wants to biuld muscle safely and slowly.
I think once you've done a handful of proper workouts that leave you on lying on the floor and you continue that work ethic, then whatever gym you visit won't matter
myst
Member
Yes and no, if I wanted to take my powerlifting to the next level I would need to significantly change my life around the times I need to train and who I need to train with and where. I know I'm getting sub par results training by myself at a franchise gym, but the reality is my busy life and other priorities dictate that I train late at night with no spotters, but that doesn't mean I don't put 110% into my training.
Neddysmith
Standard kunce
To some extent yes, for MOST people if you are the biggest or strongest in your gym then motivation for further improvement has to come from an external source, but if there is some high class competitive BBer or PL there and that's your goal then there is someone there always showing you what you could achieve and it is a physical motivation which I is always there in front of you.
bozodos
Member
I get results despite the gym environment I have - my gym calls itself a "health club" and most of the members are DYEL teenagers doing advanced BB splits, women doing Les Mills classes and hamsters on treadmills. I get a bit self conscious every time I load more than 160kg on the bar because I use most of the gym's 20kg plates and people tend to start staring.
I would probably do better at a PL gym, but I'm happy doing my own routine in my own time, and it's handy having a leg curl machine / cables there for use. I also remind myself that even though I might lift more than most people there, that in the grander sense I'm still at an intermediate level for my bodyweight.
I would probably do better at a PL gym, but I'm happy doing my own routine in my own time, and it's handy having a leg curl machine / cables there for use. I also remind myself that even though I might lift more than most people there, that in the grander sense I'm still at an intermediate level for my bodyweight.
Kyle Aaron
Active member
Absolutely. This is one of the reasons I take my clients to competitions. If a woman gets a 100kg deadlift in a mainstream gym, she'll almost always be the strongest woman there. She becomes slack, takes it easy.
Down at a black iron this woman will look to her left and see a 16yo girl with 110, to her right and see a 49yo mother of four with 140, look back at her 100 and say, "Well, I guess that's a good start."
So I take them to competitions so they can see these people much stronger than them, they return to the community gym with a sense of where they are and where they could be, this keeps them driven to do better. It inspires the women, a lot of the guys it kind of deflates them though. The male ego is a delicate thing.
Down at a black iron this woman will look to her left and see a 16yo girl with 110, to her right and see a 49yo mother of four with 140, look back at her 100 and say, "Well, I guess that's a good start."
So I take them to competitions so they can see these people much stronger than them, they return to the community gym with a sense of where they are and where they could be, this keeps them driven to do better. It inspires the women, a lot of the guys it kind of deflates them though. The male ego is a delicate thing.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I agree Kyle, at Fuzzy's gym a 100kg deadlift is like the moment where we go "Oh good! we can actually do normal programming for you now"
Women come in and they have no fucking clue what is good and what is not. 100kg for a woman is normal lol, weak even. So they get that first 100kg deadlift pretty fast.
Women come in and they have no fucking clue what is good and what is not. 100kg for a woman is normal lol, weak even. So they get that first 100kg deadlift pretty fast.
Fadi
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No I don't, not if we're talking about the end results no. If you subject a person and make him or her aware of a particular environment, as compared with a totally different one, then leave them alone, you would have sowed the seed inside of their head and gave them all the options they need to choose how they wish to train (and eventually end up).
If that drive, that fire in thebelly is there, then that would drive and create enough of a motivation to seethat lifter through irrespective if he's training all alone in some dungeonsomewhere or not. First expose him to the different environments, then leavehim be...one can create the perfect environment in one's own head.There's an internal as well as an external environment. I fully believe thatbased on both experience as well as observation. Observation of amazinglystrong lifters who crack open under pressure, not external pressure butinternal pressure. The one they've allowed to be created and grow in their ownheads through the negative chatter box. I know, I'm always ending up back atthe psychological base, the self-confidence and self-worth base.
Arnold knew all about it, Lou had to find out the hard way....
Fadi.
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Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
Have to agree with this.
Well you obviously train in the wrong place with women who have no idea, most women that I have seen train properly will hit a 100Kg dead lift in a few weeks or even a few training session with the right guidance, I think my misses pulled her first 100kg dead lift at 36 years old during her third dead lift session ever in her life.
Jungnaut
YOLO Kunce
Really? Maybe commercial gym chicks are a different breed. The most I have seen a chick DL in my gym is 60kg, and she was a crossfitter. Most are scared of big weights. Just last week when I was deadlifting the chick doing tricep kickbacks next to me actually let out a little whimper as I finished my first rep lol.
Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
Yes 100% correct I think in a commercial gym a 100kg dead lift from a guy is a big deal.
Had a mate of mine in Sydney who is about 27 post a photo of himself up on Facebook just the other day Dead Lifting 120kg…..lol, I have a very weak dead lift but still use 120kg as warm up at 45 years old...
chocchillimango
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where I train does not impact HOW I train. assuming you have all the equipment you need to train, it should not matter.
But for some people, it might do. There is a psychological component and it does depend on how much you need motivation from your surroundings and others.
But for some people, it might do. There is a psychological component and it does depend on how much you need motivation from your surroundings and others.
No matter what people think the environment you train in has an impact.
If you have a 200kg deadlift where are you more likely to improve. The gym where the next best dead is 100kg or the gym full of blokes deadlifting over 300.
The subconscious drive to beat the next bloke. The better help.
Also the gym full of 300kg + deadlifters will likely have better suppliers. Lol.
If you have a 200kg deadlift where are you more likely to improve. The gym where the next best dead is 100kg or the gym full of blokes deadlifting over 300.
The subconscious drive to beat the next bloke. The better help.
Also the gym full of 300kg + deadlifters will likely have better suppliers. Lol.