One Nation wins four Senate seats

[Goosey]

You can see the evidence on land, what is freaking me out is the unseen devastating effect we are causing under the water.

i read somewhere that we should be moving towards another ice age but because of us we are moving towards a warming?
is this correct?

 

[spartacus]

it appears so, I have seen shows that demonstrate that human activity has affected the climate for many centuries from faming practices; stands to reason that ongoing industrialisation is severely compounding problem.

 

[Goosey]

As far as politicians are concerned the chooses we all make have not made a bit of difference what we need is someone who is different, someone who goes against what we believe, fuck we need to do something different too much PC

 

[spartacus]

as soon as batteries become more affordable, I am connecting my solar panels to it. We will always have just one car, and I try to use public transport as much as possible.

That is my bit.

 

[Stiffy]

So why has One Nation produced these policies which seem to be at odds with accepted Science and common sense.

'Human induced' climate change is real - sorry Pauline
Islam is a Religion - sorry Pauline.

Are they trying to win votes by appealing to a certain demographic, the hillbilly mouth breathing demographic. No offence [MENTION=8428]Big Mick[/MENTION];

Looks like [MENTION=15941]steveP[/MENTION]; was right



Lol [MENTION=6722]Bazza20[/MENTION]; asking his oldman for his credentials and for peer reviewed research to back up his claims. Post of the thread so far.

 

[Goosey]

This did tickle me;
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Lol @Bazza20; asking his oldman for his credentials and for peer reviewed research to back up his claims. Post of the thread so far."

 

[Stiffy]

This did tickle me;
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Lol @Bazza20; asking his oldman for his credentials and for peer reviewed research to back up his claims. Post of the thread so far."

The kicker to it is that Baz was only 4 years of age at the time!

 

[Big Mick]

100% GOLD Mick!
Now let me itemise your above conversation so as to make myself clearer and more transparent to you Big Man.

Losers (yes you've read it here and from me)...losers whoever they are will always be losers. In fact they don't need an excuse to be so, as they'll make their own excuses so as to justify their losers' mentalities. And yes, in this instance, I am referring to Muslims who are just as ignorant as the people they're accusing of suffering from ignorance, there's no two ways about it Mick. I will never label you by a particular label if I can not substantiate my claim with some hard evidence. Hence as Darko knows well, I've always sided with him whenever he lifts his hands up in frustration and says: "Islam is not a race people!" ... and I can not but agree with him. My objection to Ms. Pauline Hanson's comments regarding Islam was based on her ignorance of the subject. Everyone here knows me well enough to know that I always keep my mouth shut and ears wide open when it comes to a subject matter I lack some knowledge in. Even Powerlifting, a sport you won't see me talk about, but rather ask questions instead from the people here who know their stuff on the subject.

I know you're not mate.

Mick, my approach to your comment here, is that with every right or privilege there comes a duty and a responsibility. Hence, freedom of speech ought to also come and have its own responsibilities. Some people can really go to town abusing the hell out of such a beautiful thing as freedom of speech. Some people are not afforded such freedom as freedom of speech, yet others seem to seriously, arrogantly, and perhaps even ignorantly take it for granted. Our ANZAC: is there anyone on this forum who disrespects the sacrifices our ANZACs have died in order for us to live the way we do? To me, abusing freedom of speech by ignorantly blurting out hateful and inciteful words, shows not only total disrespect for our ANZACs (where every Aussie ought to show respect, Muslim or non-Muslim), but it also demonstrates that the speaker has fully abused the responsibilities that come with such a powerful tool as freedom of speech. So yes to using freedom of speech, and no to abusing it to serve a particular agenda.

No one (I'm referring to Muslims here Mick) needs to feel offended if what is said is true. Some use "oh I'm offended" as a shield of sort. I'm 100% against that, especially when Muslims use it. My advice is go and learn, equip yourself with the most powerful tool known to man...knowledge, then perchance you might not get offended so easily, as you'd be able to sift through what is BS, from what is right on the money.

The psychoanalytic theory, fathered by Sigmund Freud, where he’d like to convince us that we are a product of our past, is not an analysis I fully accept Big Man. Some folks strive to use their past experiences as a tool for personal growth, whilst others would like to use/abuse it to justify their misdeeds/misfortune etc.….

Hahaha Mick, oh you've hit a delicate spot with me..., in fact it's the meanest spot in my whole being. I have zero (100%) zero tolerance for anyone who blames or points the finger at someone else for his bad words or bad deeds. So even though I could have very easily replied to Spartacus question when he asked me regarding a solution to France's terrorists issues, I would never justify the killings of an innocent human being, French (in France) or anyone else anywhere else for that matter. Yes it's a fact that there are French Muslims (probably born in France), who'd use their grievances (as well as their parents' grievances) against France's past and present policies towards Muslims and Muslim majority countries. So if (let's say) the truck driver who killed 80 something people was acting on some grievances in addition to France being in self-denial of its past and present actions, I would say to that Muslim your abhorrent act was not only un-Islamic, but it played right into the hands of the French government and its supporters. The targeting of (and misdirecting of anger and frustration) at innocent people has no place in the house of Islam, anywhere and under any circumstances, period!

Ignorance is rampant on both sides of the fence, but ultimately I would hold the politicians/leaders and makers of foreign policies into account. We the people, are paying in blood for being silent. We need to talk more if we are to arrive at an understanding where our words (united as one), can have any effect on the policies our leaders make. It's not good enough to say we are fine here in Australia, but to hell with them overseas. That attitude (and I guarantee you this), will bring chaos (to put it mildly) over here into our Australian streets...,for a certainty, unless you start believing that the blood of an Australian is no better than that of an Iraqi or a Syrian or whatever, we as Aussies have no right to judge. Again I emphasise, my dealings with my fellow Aussies is not (and should not) be the same as my dealings with the policy makers, for they are first and foremost responsible for our safety as a nation.

Would love for a Muslim leader here in OZ (if he's gut the guts [and is willing to give up his life for an ethical and moral cause]) to publicly put our foreign minister on the spot by asking her some/certain questions about the way we as a government deal with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

As always you talk sense.

 

[Big Mick]

as soon as batteries become more affordable, I am connecting my solar panels to it. We will always have just one car, and I try to use public transport as much as possible.

That is my bit.

LMAO, how does owning one car make any difference, I currently own 8 cars, surly makes no difference to climate change.

Do you realise that the batteries cause more environmental damage that any car ever will. The resources and energy used to build a new 'environmentally friendly car' far outweigh any pollution caused by a 40 year old V8 driven daily.

 

[Big Mick]

So why has One Nation produced these policies which seem to be at odds with accepted Science and common sense.

HAHA how so?? If you believe the propaganda sold to the masses it might be real, but where is the evidence?? Scientifically accepted, that is hillarious, may be scientifically accepted by peopel who are paid off to produce these reports.

Might be worth a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

Islam is a Religion - sorry Pauline.

I guess you misses a practising muslim suggesting otherwise??

 

[Stiffy]

HAHA how so?? If you believe the propaganda sold to the masses it might be real, but where is the evidence?? Scientifically accepted, that is hillarious, may be scientifically accepted by peopel who are paid off to produce these reports.

Might be worth a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

I like you Mick. You bring much humour to the forum. I'm not going to argue with you. I'll let @Bazza20; reply to ^this

I guess you misses a practising muslim suggesting otherwise??

Not sure @Fadi; ever said Islam isn't a religion. But we'll await his clarification.

 

[Bazza20]

Googled the speaker on micks first video and let's just say he doesn't have many, or any, experts in the field of climate agreeing with him and the data doesn't agree with his predictions or claims either.

Big mock. Who is paying off the scientists to produce supposed false claims about climate change. It's certainly not the government and it's certainly not big business. Your claim they are payed off to claim climate change doesn't make sense. There is much more money at stake in denying it at the moment.


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[Stiffy]

Googled the speaker on micks first video and let's just say he doesn't have many, or any, experts in the field of climate agreeing with him and the data doesn't agree with his predictions or claims either.

Big mock. Who is paying off the scientists to produce supposed false claims about climate change. It's certainly not the government and it's certainly not big business. Your claim they are payed off to claim climate change doesn't make sense. There is much more money at stake in denying it at the moment.


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Lol. So [MENTION=8428]Big Mick[/MENTION]; is now posting videos by someone with as much credibility as L. Ron Hubbard.

Come on Mickey Mantle Piece, lift your game.

 

[Big Mick]

Not sure @Fadi; ever said Islam isn't a religion. But we'll await his clarification.

Man this is painful, not sure if you are just slow on the uptake or trolling to be honest, Yes it is a religion but it is more than a religion.

No one, including One Nation said that it is not a religion, however, they all suggest that it is more than a religion.

Here is a quite from Fadi, who is a practicing member of the religion quoted and bolded for your convenience:

It's everything, hence it's called (as I wrote here once) a Deen...way of life, rather than that restrictive English word "religion". So you're 100% correct, Islam has its political as well as its many other elements all built within.

 

[Big Mick]

Googled the speaker on micks first video and let's just say he doesn't have many, or any, experts in the field of climate agreeing with him and the data doesn't agree with his predictions or claims either.

Big mock. Who is paying off the scientists to produce supposed false claims about climate change. It's certainly not the government and it's certainly not big business. Your claim they are payed off to claim climate change doesn't make sense. There is much more money at stake in denying it at the moment.


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You must have a different google to me.

 

[Stiffy]

Painful alright.

I said that Islam is a Religion - sorry Pauline. See below.

Islam is a Religion - sorry Pauline.

To that you said:

I guess you misses a practising muslim suggesting otherwise??

You love these little dishonest arguing tactics don't you Mickey.


Straight from One Nation's Policy page: "No more building of mosques & Islamic schools until an inquiry is held into Islam, to determine whether it is a religion or totalitarian political ideology, undermining our democracy and way of life."

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies

 

[Big Mick]

Lol. So @Big Mick; is now posting videos by someone with as much credibility as L. Ron Hubbard.

Come on Mickey Mantle Piece, lift your game.

Man believe in what you want, if you believe in man made climate change then go ahead. No skin off my nose.

Seriously I don't understand how any person can believe that rubbish with zero evidence to support it. Climate has changed well before we ever came along it has been changing for billions of years and will continue to do so for billions more.

Then there is the idiocy that somehow a carbon tax will change all that, yes of course we pay hundreds of million of $$ in carbon tax, of course climate will change due to the extra money in the governments coffers, makes perfect sense.

 

[Big Mick]

There is much more money at stake in denying it at the moment.

4.14 billion in Carbon tax revenue in Australia alone says different.

 

[Big Mick]

Painful alright.

I said that Islam is a Religion - sorry Pauline. See below.



To that you said:




You love these little dishonest arguing tactics don't you Mickey.


Straight from One Nation's Policy page: "No more building of mosques & Islamic schools until an inquiry is held into Islam, to determine whether it is a religion or totalitarian political ideology, undermining our democracy and way of life."

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies

Yes and evidence would suggest that it is a totalitarian political ideology part of which is the religion.

 

[Bazza20]

4.14 billion in Carbon tax revenue in Australia alone says different.

That doesn't go to the experts doing the climate research. The funding to climate scientists keeps getting cut of late.

Big businesses that would benefit from climate change denial would dwarf that figure. There is more money in it to deny climate change. That's already happened.

Stop saying there is zero evidence to support man made climate change. 97% of 4000 research supports it.