Halal

[spartacus]

halal? I am also interested in any possible benefit of such a practice. Don't believe there would be any, but am wiling to learn.

 

[Bazza20]

So I don't misinterpret any of your words please point out the elements of the halal process which are worth taking note of.

So time to make a new tread about arguing on the net but can't answer this simple question about your own statement. Strange.

What more a waste of time, arguing on the net or making a thread about arguing on the net?

 

[Repacked]

You're a funny fellow Baz.

 

[Bazza20]

So you can't point out any of the elements of the Halal process which are worth taking note of?

 

[Repacked]

All the questions you've asked so far can be answered by properly reading the posts above.

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Read the posts, draw your own conclusion. As I said, everything you have asked can be answered by reading the thread properly

 

[Bazza20]

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You can't list anything? Because I cant find these points of interest you are talking about.

All I can find is the leading of animals in a beautiful way, not showing them the knife and other bullshit like that.

Please list these points of interest or admit there is really nothing worthwhile we can take away from it.

 

[El Testicle]

Goat mince?

Why Baz, was that a 'joke'?

yeah m8, I goat mince

 

[Fadi]

So you can't point out any of theelements of the Halal process which are worth taking note of?

halal? I am also interested inany possible benefit of such a practice. Don't believe there would be any, butam wiling to learn.

You may check post #74 on page #8 of this thread for more information and a full study regarding this issue. I'm not expecting people to agree, but the information has already been provided. All you need do is read...weigh, and consider. Just like my avatar says

 

[C_T]

its about respecting the animal your eating. hopefully in the right hands, the disrespect we see in western raising and slaughtering for cheap and manufacturing, we get somebody who respects the animals that kills them more humanely.

pretty simple really.

 

[spartacus]

are you serious, are you saying that non-western societies are more humane with how they kill their animals.

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[C_T]

im saying in todays world, everything is done based on the dollar...

put 2 and 2 together.

 

[C_T]

have you seen how chickens and pigs are raised these days???

its about profits, its not about anything else...

 

[spartacus]

cost would be a factor in any society.

where is bazza, he will sort you out.

 

[C_T]

in some cases, religion trumps cost, so they don't cross that line.

for breading animals, and slaughtering them, i prefer their view... is it that hard to realise or believe?

you have access to unlimited cruelty documentaries, how about you watch some and find out what really happens. my father also used to work for steggles, said it was a machine that cut all their heads off, and their growing cycle and food, don't even get me started!!!

 

[C_T]

its about morals.

really. i don't like religion as a word even, but its about morals. when you respect shit, you treat it better. someone with morals will def raise better *anything* than someone without. just ask bazza with zero morals.

 

[Bazza20]

have you seen how chickens and pigs are raised these days???

its about profits, its not about anything else...

Have you seen any? I doubt it.

Every thing is about money. If it's not profitable it's not sustainable.

You know what's also profitable in animals raisin, happy, healthy animals with low death rates.

Dead unhealthy animals are what causes loss of profit.

 

[Bazza20]

its about morals.

really. i don't like religion as a word even, but its about morals. when you respect shit, you treat it better. someone with morals will def raise better *anything* than someone without. just ask bazza with zero morals.

So because I'm not spaced out of my brain all the time I have zero morals.

Please lot the unmoral behavior of conventional farming.

 

[Rugby88]

Have not read every single comment in the thread - but the companies that are "halal certified" are more than likely doing this to make more money - not to respect Muslim culture etc etc - think about how many Muslims there now are in Australia - as a company are you really wanting to miss out on that slice of the pie? and the rest non muslims even if they have a problem with Halal certified food wont take the time to check everything anyway like a large number of the Muslim community would....simply smart business from companies....

 

[Bazza20]

You may check post #74 on page #8 of this thread for more information and a full study regarding this issue. I'm not expecting people to agree, but the information has already been provided. All you need do is read...weigh, and consider. Just like my avatar says

Well it's wrong for starters Animals live for a while after having their throat cut. That's why it's not an accepted method of slaughter for us here. It would be good if people looked past religious traditions and did what is better for the animal.

 

[spartacus]

sure, we can always do things better, but I suppose the real 'moral' of the story for us evil westerners is producing enough food that is affordable so we can all eat.

Yes, we are not perfect, but don't offer simplistic do gooder summaries generalising about the West's supposed lack of morality when addressing food issues.

If it was all about profit, then our practices would not have improved over the years. Reality is that western societies are increasingly modifying to find right balance.