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Increased Alt in liver

Sandin Face said:
Hi there - I'm another middle-aged, gear-curious guy.

No experience with anything like this before ...

Very interested in this thread ...

;)
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Honestly all you will need to do is bump your testosterone up
250mg a week is a very large dose in the grand scheme of things and pretty benign
Don't cycle on or off, just stay at that level until you simply don't care any more

A small dose of GH would be good as well, 2ui a day taken before bed. This will be large enough to replace the GH your body produces when you're my age and won't be high enough to put your blood sugar anywhere near out of range

If you ever want a "boost", and we are all only human here, some dbol for a few weeks would work very well, or you can increase the testosterone for a few months then back down again. I'd limit this to once a year unless you're serious about some sort of sport

Eat well and you'll be very healthy. I would eat paleo or Mediterranean. Med is paleo + some bread as far as I am aware
 
Interesting thread.

I had ALT around 200ish a few years back. Had no idea why. This was before I was on TRT also. I don't drink often but when I do I tend to drink a fair bit :) I took about 3 months off alcohol and they came back down to 60ish. It has hovered around there for ages now.

I got a referral to see a specialist ages ago and finally saw him this morning. They just ask you all about every medication you take including all supplements. He recommended that I ditch all supps except the required medication and retest bloods in 6 weeks.

This was after he saw me as he said a lot of the time people are overweight and therefore more likely to have fatty liver.

He was saying that he's had a few cases where because supps are not regulated companies will put some sort of small dose of AAS in there (tiny trace amount) to get the affects required. I'm unsure how true this is, or even it would be commercially viable but makes you wonder.

Anyway, I'm not dying so all is good :p
 
jzpowahz said:
He was saying that he's had a few cases where because supps are not regulated companies will put some sort of small dose of AAS in there (tiny trace amount) to get the affects required. I'm unsure how true this is, or even it would be commercially viable but makes you wonder.
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Lol, sounds like your specialist is making shit up.
 
0ni said:
Honestly all you will need to do is bump your testosterone up
250mg a week is a very large dose in the grand scheme of things and pretty benign
Don't cycle on or off, just stay at that level until you simply don't care any more
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So how would that affect your life?? Will it make your balls shrink? Side effects etc

So just stay on it for a year, what would happen when you come off??

How much would it cost to run per months??

jzpowahz said:
He was saying that he's had a few cases where because supps are not regulated companies will put some sort of small dose of AAS in there (tiny trace amount) to get the affects required. I'm unsure how true this is, or even it would be commercially viable but makes you wonder.
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Interesting, it would make for a great supplement and good sales I guess.

I remember using a supplement in the early 90"s you got a pre and post workout tablet and a mass gainer protein powder to have in the morning and before bed, best gains I have had in a short time. When I went back to the shop to buy more the guy said that the product had been banned and confiscated off his shelves due to some questionable ingredients:eek:
 
Big Mick said:
So how would that affect your life?? Will it make your balls shrink? Side effects etc

So just stay on it for a year, what would happen when you come off??

How much would it cost to run per months??



Interesting, it would make for a great supplement and good sales I guess.

I remember using a supplement in the early 90"s you got a pre and post workout tablet and a mass gainer protein powder to have in the morning and before bed, best gains I have had in a short time. When I went back to the shop to buy more the guy said that the product had been banned and confiscated off his shelves due to some questionable ingredients:eek:
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Balls shrinking is an estrogen related side effect. Don't be a fatass and you won't have issues at these doses. My balls are fine.
Staying on for a year then coming off? Well you'd want to go back on immediately. This is very serious, these are powerful drugs. You need to make the decision- "do I want to take these for the foreseeable future? If the answer is no then stay natural. Same goes for TRT. If you're going to the doctors for low test, don't beat around the bush you're going there for a testosterone script lets be serious. So unless you want to take testosterone injections for the rest of your life don't waste your doctors time with stupid hormone panels.

Cost would be whatever the vial cost over 10 weeks... So you really shouldn't be paying any more than the cost of your insurance or $2 a day maximum. Arimidex if you need it will add to the cost
 
0ni said:
Balls shrinking is an estrogen related side effect. Don't be a fatass and you won't have issues at these doses. My balls are fine.
Staying on for a year then coming off? Well you'd want to go back on immediately. This is very serious, these are powerful drugs. You need to make the decision- "do I want to take these for the foreseeable future? If the answer is no then stay natural. Same goes for TRT. If you're going to the doctors for low test, don't beat around the bush you're going there for a testosterone script lets be serious. So unless you want to take testosterone injections for the rest of your life don't waste your doctors time with stupid hormone panels.

Cost would be whatever the vial cost over 10 weeks... So you really shouldn't be paying any more than the cost of your insurance or $2 a day maximum. Arimidex if you need it will add to the cost
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Balls shrinking is estrogen? Never heard tgat before, explain...
 
Hypothalmus detects to much tesosterone in system so shuts down test production trying to maintain homeostasis, so the balls shrink as they are no longer producing tesosterone. Its that simple

Saying its an estrogen issue and nothing to worry about unless your fat is utter horse shit
 
Something can't contribute yet not be a cause. It's logically impossible
The long and short of it is, body thinks it is female

You essentially go through female menopause
 
So if i shoot up 2g of test and controll estrogen my balls wont shrink?lol

How about some tren? No aromatase so my balls wont shrink?

Man you have gone off the map this time

And how is a contributing factor a direct cause? Its not.
 
Genics said:
So if i shoot up 2g of test and controll estrogen my balls wont shrink?lol

How about some tren? No aromatase so my balls wont shrink?

Man you have gone off the map this time

And how is a contributing factor a direct cause? Its not.
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Come on man. Read what I write not what you think I am writing.
"So how would that affect your life?? Will it make your balls shrink? Side effects etc"

"Balls shrinking is an estrogen related side effect. Don't be a fatass and you won't have issues at these doses"

Estrogen will shut you the fuck down in a hurry. Sticking to low doses will shut you down, but the body won't think there is an excess and it won't shrink your balls. 2g cycles or tren has nothing to do with it. I have no idea what this would do but I imagine the balls would become raisins no sun could shrink worse
 
0ni said:
Come on man. Read what I write not what you think I am writing.
"So how would that affect your life?? Will it make your balls shrink? Side effects etc"

"Balls shrinking is an estrogen related side effect. Don't be a fatass and you won't have issues at these doses"

Estrogen will shut you the fuck down in a hurry. Sticking to low doses will shut you down, but the body won't think there is an excess and it won't shrink your balls. 2g cycles or tren has nothing to do with it. I have no idea what this would do but I imagine the balls would become raisins no sun could shrink worse
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Yeh but your explaining things to someone who has no idea so he is gona take your cryptic bs at face value.

And yes i can vouch for tren making your balls the size of raisens

And 250mg is gona make your balls shrink.
 
250mg a week of testosterone the balls will be fine if estrogen is low
My balls are fine, they are just the same as always no difference

Some people will have the balls shrink, but it is some other hormonal problem that can be fixed easy. It's not the testosterone that causes it
 
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