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Squat depth

The skeleton requires the muscles to work for it to be rigid otherwise it will just be a bag of bones on the ground.

The biggest loser show had a challenge for the fatties and it was just stand with a bar and weights on their back. They didn't last very long. Definitly couldn't just stand there all day.
 
Bloke said:
That is pretty disappointing if true.

So someone comes on with a legitimate problem and asks for some advice and y'all take the piss... Nice one.
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Not true, people throw around ideas, some like throwing shit, you need to work out what works for you.
 
Bazza20 said:
The skeleton requires the muscles to work for it to be rigid otherwise it will just be a bag of bones on the ground.

The biggest loser show had a challenge for the fatties and it was just stand with a bar and weights on their back. They didn't last very long. Definitly couldn't just stand there all day.
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Put them in a half squat....why am I trying to explain this.
 
Ok..... Im might be missing something......

I'm reading that andy is saying the muscles do very little when supporting weight when the body is locked out... its the skeleton.

Is that what youre saying?
 
Bazza20 said:
The skeleton requires the muscles to work for it to be rigid otherwise it will just be a bag of bones on the ground.

The biggest loser show had a challenge for the fatties and it was just stand with a bar and weights on their back. They didn't last very long. Definitly couldn't just stand there all day.
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The fatties have a hard time just breathing let alone holding a weighted bar
Are you saying you cant't do better than them? :D
 
Goosey said:
From that point to where hip is level with the thigh is most difficult, so it makes sense how at the top of the squat you could stand there for a day because the bones are supporting the weight entirerly, the muscle's doing no work.
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This is the quote.

The bones are not supporting the weight entirely and the muscles are doing some work and no you couldn't stand there all day.
 
Darkoz said:
The fatties have a hard time just breathing let alone holding a weighted bar
Are you saying you cant't do better than them? :D
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Of course I think I could do better than them but I know I couldn't stand all day at the top of a squat with a heavy weight. To say the muscles do no work is totally wrong.

The muscles are doing work at the top. As soon as you get under a squat you realise this.
 
Bazza20 said:
Of course I think I could do better than them but I know I couldn't stand all day at the top of a squat with a heavy weight. To say the muscles do no work is totally wrong.

The muscles are doing work at the top. As soon as you get under a squat you realise this.
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Bazza, Andy's simply trying to make a point but you guys then take one statement literally instead.
It's pretty simple and I'm surprised people are even arguing this, the fact is it's MUCH easier to just stand and hold a heavy weight than it is to actually MOVE it.
You don't fail in a squat at the top of the movement, you fail at the bottom when trying to move it.
 
Bazza20 said:
Of course I think I could do better than them but I know I couldn't stand all day at the top of a squat with a heavy weight. To say the muscles do no work is totally wrong.

The muscles are doing work at the top. As soon as you get under a squat you realise this.
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Bazza, no one is stupid enough to stand all day with a bar on their back, if they are that stupid then there is nothing that can be done for that person.

No excuse me I need to go and do some grocery shopping and stand in the queue.
 
Goosey said:
Bazza, no one is stupid enough to stand all day with a bar on their back, if they are that stupid then there is nothing that can be done for that person.

No excuse me I need to go and do some grocery shopping and stand in the queue.
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Are you going to stand there all day? :D
 
Goosey said:
How long could you hold that in the sticking point position knackers?
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You do realise that no one is arguing that the bottom of the squat is harder than the top. Just that you saying at the top of the squat it is entirely supported by the skeleton and the muscles are doing no work, which is wrong.
 
Bazza20 said:
You do realise that no one is arguing that the bottom of the squat is harder than the top. Just that you saying at the top of the squat it is entirely supported by the skeleton and the muscles are doing no work, which is wrong.
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I appreciate your line of questioning, Bazza, I really do.

I would think I'd be safe in saying that anyone who believes that muscle is not playing a role holding limbs, Moving limbs, supporting organs and maintaining other other bodily functions is an idiot.

I'm suggesting to bloke that he actually needs to get into that position where he is weakest to improve his strength by moving through it, to get strong he must first be strong.

You two (sticky) are the only two that are arguing, if anyone else doesn't understand of course, speak up, to make a muscle stronger it needs to move.

I'm done now, thanks.
 
May i clarify goosey sir? At the top of a squat, just standing there, you're saying thats entirely skelatal and not musculature?

That being the case, and assuming all skelatons are roughly equal, i'm going to practice 250kg squat rack walkouts tomorrow. I certainly cant squat that, but if i'm just practicing the walkout i should be fine right?

Edit - im sorry if this has already been covered. Apparently comprehension isnt my strong point.
 
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Did you read the rest of the post? :p

Goosey said its all skelatal, not musculature at top of squat.
 
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