Is that $300 a pop or per family??? If per family how big is the family???
I was thinking it was $300 per refugee
Damn, I spend whole the day decking the garage out with bunk beds from St Vinnies, I figured I could fit 10-15 in there, then feed them 2 minute Noodles from Aldi and of course drink tap water.
I figure they should be able to work 12-15 hours per day making fake Nike and Everlast hoodies and man bags that I can sell at Bankstown Markets on the week end.....I will be rich I tell RICH
But unfortunately in reality our Country and Government is a laughing stock of other countries, this is embarrassing on an international level.
And it raises so many questions, what if they steal from you?? What if they take your shit and disappear while you are at work?? Are they going to roaming round your house sitting on the lounge watching TV while you go out and work to pay tax and then you get back $300?? Will they have criminal history checks just to ask a few
A genuine refugee is someone who flee's their country of origin into the NEAREST nation that provides sanctuary - not someone who flies to Indonesia on a commercial flight, and then upon arrival destroys their documentation prior to embarking on a short boat trip to Australia. However it is policies like these that encourage asylum seekers (not genuine refugees as per definition), which is resulting in these problems we are having now.
This government needs a complete shake up and re vamp with brand new guidelines and policies, this is a very bad and unfunny joke
Racism is strong in this thread. Guess everyones forgotten we are all immigrants except the aboriginies. How are these poor buggers any different to the first fleeters that came in chains, the wogs in the 50s or the viets in the 80s.
Ignorance and scaremongering thats the problem not the reffos.
Different times, different circumstances, different attitudes, different people.
Thats bullshit every generation says the same thing but they all assymilate and end up aussies. Its demonisation by media and politician. Its a neat distraction for the people in charge who have made a cluster fuck of the economy.
Thats bullshit every generation says the same thing but they all assymilate and end up aussies. Its demonisation by media and politician. Its a neat distraction for the people in charge who have made a cluster fuck of the economy.
I think that's the point of difference though Neddy? These people aren't immigrants. They're assylum seekers, running from terror and rape and certain death. Often these people have watched family members die, children are thrown on boats,in the hope that their lives are saved. Woman and their babies, are sent without their husbands, because their husbands and sons are fighting.....
And these poor people are put into detention centre's and left there for years and years and years. And don't kid yourselves, our prisons,for murderers, rapists and paedophiles are nicer than these detention centre's!
It's an abomination the government, all previous and present Australian governments, should be absolutely ashamed of.
Can you imagine, how utterly desperate you would have to be, to jump on a shitty boat that looks like it might fall apart, to escape?
Because that's what we're talking about here.
Immigration is a seperate matter.
The people who breach the immigration legislation are the Irish/English and Scottish backpackers who stay here beyond their visa requirements and try to live here. Or the men and women who come here and marry Australians, just to gain residency.
They're wroughters of the immigration system.
In Western society, Australia, Canada, US, UK there are provisions within our legislation, that we allow a certain number of refugee's within our borders each year. The number differs from country to country of course, but the provision is there, to assist in global humanity.
The problem is that Australia is an ageing population, we no longer have the workforce to support our growing pensioners, they keep pushing the age of retirement up, to milk a few more tax dollars out of people, in the hopes of sustaining our way of life for the coming generations.
The number of refugees and assylum seekers, is actually quite insignificant, in relation to our population growth through skilled workers and spousal immigrants. It's less than 1%. The reason it's so often in the media is because A) We treat them and house them, in worse conditions than criminals in our own country. B) No formal agreement or long term commitment by any government has ever been enforced.
There are actually not that many more boats coming into the country now, as there were back in John Howards day. The difference is that we're trying to accomodate them on shore now, instead of sending them off shore as was the Pacific Solution incepted by the Howard government.
So the media never created a shit storm. Because these boats were incepted way before they ever hit our shores and sent to islands off Australia, to wait out for years and years in detention camps, before being sent home, let into Australia, or sent to another country to immigrate.
The Pacific Solution, implemented by John Howard, cost this country a bloody fortune. We had to reach agreements and pay off the islands in question, build detention facilities (which are worse than prisons!), create a government department and pay a bunch of public servants to scratch their arses all day. Re-write legislation 5000 times before government and opposition came to any kind of agreement and then implement the Pacific Solution, which meant posting Australian workers abroad and paying them extraordinary amounts of money, to run detention camps. Not to mention engaging the Defence Force to incept the ships and deport the refugees to assylum off shore.
Not a solution and not even close to being a remotely humane plan of action.
That's why Kevin Rudd scrapped it immediately. The problem is, no other solution was ever really reached? These people aren't criminals. They're terrified foreigners, seeking freedom in another country. They deserve respect while they're being assessed, especially given that over 70% of them actually are bonafide refugees.
As per below :
The Pacific Solution was the name given to the Australian government policy (2001–2007) of transporting asylum seekers to detention centres on small island nations in the Pacific Ocean, rather than allowing them to land on the Australian mainland. It had bipartisan support from both the Liberal-National government and Labor opposition at the time. The Pacific Solution consisted of three central strategies. Firstly, thousands of islands were excised from Australia’s migration zone or Australian territory. Secondly, the Australian Defence Force commenced Operation Relex to interdict vessels carrying asylum seekers. Finally, these asylum seekers were removed to third countries in order to determine their refugee status. There were a number of pieces of legislation supporting this policy. The policy was developed by the Howard government in response to the 2001 Tampa affair and was implemented by then Australian Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock.
Asylum seekers were intercepted at sea while sailing from Indonesia and moved using Australian naval vessels. Detention centres were set up on Christmas Island, Manus Island in Papua New Guinea, and on the tiny island nation of Nauru. Some were also accepted for processing by New Zealand. Most of the asylum seekers came from Afghanistan (largely of the Hazara ethnic group), Iraq, Iran, China, and Vietnam. The last asylum seekers to be detained on Nauru before the end of the policy had come from Sri Lanka and Myanmar.[1]
Under the Pacific solution, 30 percent were sent home, 43 per cent of asylum seekers resettled from Nauru and Manus Island ended up in Australia. The remaining were settled in other countries.[2]
longest post in the fucking world. I know I know
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this.Thus is only MY opinion...but there are too many doo-gooders, I get pissed off when people say how unfortunate these 'refugees' are but what about our own pensioners, homeless and especially war veterans? Surely they deserve more before before a refugee does?
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