Machines are shit! Full stop. Cables are okay only for lat pull down when u can't do your own weight any more other than that. i never include those hammer strengh and nautilus joint destroyers !!
It's interesting how people have different ideas about building muscle.
As though it was some mystic secret and everyone on the planet is wrong.
We can report to the mod squad that there needs to be a thread clean-up, but I say let the shit flow, water finds its level eventually.
Everyone who says machines are shit need to pull their heads out of their arses, they all have their place depending on goals, some just more effectively then others, maybe if your a PL or Olly lifter I can understand not liking them, but I would imagine even PL would benefit from machine every now and then for assistance work...
And don't start this crap about back in the day..... there are plenty of pics getting around of Arnie, Serge, Platz, Zane, Yates etc etc using, machines in some form or another...
Back when you were a powerlifter......bench only isn't powerliftingWhen I was a "bodybuilder"
Tricep rope pushdown on the plate stack is the only one worth doing. Lat pulls if your too weak to hoist your own bodyweight.
Tricep push downs are up there with my favourite tricep exercise.
Tricep push downs are up there with my favourite tricep exercise.
Tricep push downs are up there with my favourite tricep exercise.
Ed Coan did them, I think Kaz did as well. I still do them on occassion but I'm not strong.They seem to get a bad rap from some lifters - "do skull crushers or dips instead" I hear.
Any strong ppl think they're good? I have someone willing to give me a machine I'm just not sure it's worth the cartage to get the thing to my place.
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