UFC 183 - Silva and Diaz Both test Positive

[Neddysmith]

Silva tested positive for 2 types of AAS and Nick again tested positive for Marijuana....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/anderson-silva-and-nick-diaz-fail-drug-tests-for-ufc-183

 

[ride29er]

Diaz is no suprise, I would prb be more shocked if he was clean, but AS is a shock, he needs to learn to hide his PED's better

 

[Neddysmith]

yeah 3rd time for Diaz, last time was a 12mth ban and that's when using wasn't as big of a deal so will be interesting to see his suspension this time AND the limits have even been raised he last got caught.

As for Silva, considering the injury he was coming back from and the time frame he came back from it, it is hardly surprising, he would have wanted to maintain and build as much muscle as he could while recovering and no doubt his docs were pushing him, a fews years ago he may have got away with some form of exemption but looks like those days are over.....

 

[Stiffy]

As for Silva, considering the injury he was coming back from and the time frame he came back from it, it is hardly surprising, he would have wanted to maintain and build as much muscle as he could while recovering and no doubt his docs were pushing him, a fews years ago he may have got away with some form of exemption but looks like those days are over.....

I've never heard of an exemption for Masteron?

THIS JUST IN: Anderson Silva tests positive for the steroid Drostanolone before his fight with Nick Diaz at UFC 183.

woops

Would the Mast usage be to retain mass and strength while cutting down to make weight?

 

[Neddysmith]

I've never heard of an exemption for Masteron?



Would the Mast usage be to retain mass and strength while cutting down to make weight?

Honestly I have no idea how the exemptions work but considering the injury he was coming back from I am sure there would be some form of exception, but for specifically Masteron I don't know....

 

[steveP]

It's still early days with information coming out. I think give it a week and the picture will be clearer.

 

[Stiffy]

Honestly I have no idea how the exemptions work but considering the injury he was coming back from I am sure there would be some form of exception, but for specifically Masteron I don't know....

He probably ballooned up while recovering from the broken leg and needed help to make weight (while keeping muscle mass)???

Unless has always been on it????

 

[Stiffy]

"Without question, the effects of Masteron will be displayed in the most efficient way during a cutting cycle. However, for the effects to be truly appreciated the individual will need to be extremely lean. This is why the hormone will most commonly be found at the end of bodybuilding contest prep cycles as the individual should already be fairly lean at this stage. The added Masteron will help him lose that last bit of fat that often hangs on for dear life at the end of a cycle. It will also ensure his physique appears as hard as can be. Of course, the anti-estrogenic effect will simply enhance this overall look. For those that are not competitive bodybuilder lean, it is possible that the effects of Masteron may not be all that noticeable. The individual who is under 10% body fat should be able to notice some results and produce a harder, dryer look, but much over 10% and the effects may not be all that pronounced. As a potent androgen, Masteron can benefit the athlete looking for a boost in strength. This can be a very beneficial steroid for an athlete who is following a calorie restricted diet in an effort to maintain a specific bodyweight necessary for his pursuit. The individual could easily enjoy moderate increases in strength and a slight improvement in recovery and muscular endurance without unwanted body weight gain. As a bulking agent, the effects of Masteron will prove to be rather week. It is possible the hormone could provide gains in mass similar to Primobolan Depot, which won’t be that strong either, if the total dose was high enough. However, the relative gain in size will be very moderate with many anabolic steroids being far more suited for this period of steroidal supplementation. There are those who may wish to include Masteron in a bulking plan for its anti-estrogenic and fat loss effects. The latter would ensure they kept their body fat gain minimized during off-season bulking phases, but this isn’t reason enough to use it in this phase. Body fat should be controllable without it. As for the anti-estrogenic effects, off-season cycles are normally comprised of large amounts of aromatase activity due to high doses of testosterone. Progesterone activity is also commonly high with the addition of Nandrolone compounds and possible Trenbolone. Consider additional Anadrol or Dianabol and this estrogenic activity can become very pronounced. Unfortunately, while possessing anti-estrogenic effects, Masteron will not be strong enough to combat this level of estrogenic activity."

 

[Stiffy]

Anyone know what the common name for Androstane is and what it does? [MENTION=895]Shrek[/MENTION]; [MENTION=8366]JUICE JUNKY[/MENTION]; [MENTION=16903]Genics[/MENTION];

 

[Repacked]

Anyone know what the common name for Androstane is and what it does? @Shrek ; @JUICE JUNKY ; @Genics ;

What exactly are you asking? Androstane is not a usable steroid in itself... It is used in compounding other androgens (I believe). So you will see alot of androgens have 5alpha androstane or 5beta androstane in the name, and the chemical structure is based on androstane; I think denoting a specific number of carbon atoms.

I'm sure someone else can explain this a little better and more definitively..

 

[Stiffy]

What exactly are you asking? Androstane is not a usable steroid in itself... It is used in compounding other androgens (I believe). So you will see alot of androgens have 5alpha androstane or 5beta androstane in the name.

Cheers. So the fact Androstane is present in a test would indicate some other AAS has been used?

 

[Repacked]

Cheers. So the fact Androstane is present in a test would indicate some other AAS has been used?

I couldn't see where that was mentioned, but I see they mention 'androstane metabolites', I take that to mean by-products of a steroid which shares the androstane skeleton, like Mast.

 

[Jungnaut]

Pot is a performance enhancing substance now??

 

[Stiffy]

Thanks, on spread. I knew the bros liked Mast to stay lean and build a bit. Didn't think athletes did.

 

[Repacked]

Pot is a performance enhancing substance now??

Bit of a joke this one, especially since several US states have now legalised weed.

 

[Stiffy]

Pot is a performance enhancing substance now??

Apparently its to control his Anxiety disorder or something. That's his excuse anyway. [MENTION=8606]Neddysmith[/MENTION]; might know more about that than me.


But Pot is a PED











if its a cookie eating contest.

 

[C_T]

what grinds my gears is the positive PED test was from 9th jan...

technically, silva was allowed to continue his PED use upto the fight. THEN WHY EVEN TEST!!!

 

[Jungnaut]

if its a cookie eating contest.

Man, the best choc chip cookies I had were laced with pot butter. Unbelievably tasty. Then an hour later, what the fuck is happening why can't I move lol. Definitely a post workout thing to do as you're chugging down some essential BCAA's, no not a PWO.

 

[C_T]

Anyone know what the common name for Androstane is and what it does? @Shrek ; @JUICE JUNKY ; @Genics ;

the name is Methandriol

Methandriol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Methandriol - Steroid .com

here is a his test results

 

[Neddysmith]

Apparently its to control his Anxiety disorder or something. That's his excuse anyway. @Neddysmith ; might know more about that than me.

Yeah this is pretty much it, he claims it helps control his anxiety, and has troubles dealing with big crowds and the public, has never shied away from this and always been a pretty private person throughout his career, which is where a lot of his issues of no shows have come from in the past.

Marijuana can be classed as a PED depending on what it is used for, I know some competitive shooters who claim it helps them relax as well, so I guess dealing with anxiety it would help to some degree as well, then again he could just be a pot head, hahaha