This is what you call total ignorance of the religion, not to mention fanaticism, which incidentally has its roots in ignorance. The Islamic sharia law can not be implemented in Australia (or anywhere else for that matter) whenever one feels like it. If Muslims in Australia (or any other countries) do not abide by the laws of that country, then they should expect nothing less than to be met with the full force of that law. Otherwise what purpose would that law serve!
I hate hypocrisy, double standards, dictatorship, and Colonialism, (which incidentally is still alive and well but is disguised to the unwary).
The above act has nothing to do with Islam. From my understanding, (according to media reports), the man drank some alcohol, (or was a habitual drinker), and these Muslims were simply implementing the sharia law against him. Forgetting of course that we're not living under it in this country or in any other country (at least not in its fullest and comprehensive form).
Example:
I'm sure all have heard of cutting the hand of a thief for stealing (under sharia law). However what people fail (conveniently) to mention is that under an Islamic state each and every citizen is provided and cared for. The center-link system is an Islamic system that no Muslim country implements (unfortunately). So if Australia was a Muslim country (abiding by the Islamic sharia law), and has its citizen taken care of (financially), then and only then would a thief hand be cut, (for there would be no reason/or excuse to steal other's property).
This is a vast subject and I don't claim to be a Muslim scholar, however I can at least differentiate between what is Islam and what is hypocrisy.
Fadi.
I've answered that in my very first sentence above.Why do they do it then?
We're on the same page here also Shrek, as I've already stated in my post, that these culprits should face the full force of our law (which is so damn weak it's pathetic)!I hope the Court does not go soft when handing out punishment.
tat, I'm speaking here of basic human right that each and every human deserves. That is shelter, clothing, and food. And a system where if the person is able, to have him find a suitable occupation from which he can then look after himself and so on. Like I said, I don't claim to be an expert on Islamic jurisprudence (since it's a vast and complicated field of study), however I know what each Muslim aught to know without knowing all the intricacies of Islam.Under sharia law when you say the citizens are taken care of financially, to what degree? is there a measure used to determine whether or not a person needs more money or an improvement in their conditions?
With all the negativity that is spewed out by the media day in and day out about this religion, you would think (logically speaking) that people would run away from it. But if you dig a little bit deeper and go beyond the surface, you would find the exact opposite to be occurring. Do your research on what took place after 911 and you'll find what I'm saying to be true. I mention 911 because everyone knows about it and aught to figure out that if Muslims were behind this atrocious and most heinous of acts, then (again), you should find people running away from this "terrorist" religion; instead, many are embracing it…without any swords mind you. I say that because everyone was taught that Islam was spread at the point of a sword. Yes, Islam is spreading and growing in the west but not at the point of the sword, but by the sword of the intellect.Did you hear the guy on 6.30 last night. He reckons Australia will become a muslim nation. Not fucking likely
With all the negativity that is spewed out by the media day in and day out about this religion, you would think (logically speaking) that people would run away from it. But if you dig a little bit deeper and go beyond the surface, you would find the exact opposite to be occurring. Do your research on what took place after 911 and you'll find what I'm saying to be true. I mention 911 because everyone knows about it and aught to figure out that if Muslims were behind this atrocious and most heinous of acts, then (again), you should find people running away from this "terrorist" religion; instead, many are embracing it…without any swords mind you. I say that because everyone was taught that Islam was spread at the point of a sword. Yes, Islam is spreading and growing in the west but not at the point of the sword, but by the sword of the intellect.
Whether Australia becomes a Muslim country or not in the future is not something I'm willing to speculate on. But it would be beneficial (I feel) for anyone who says: "Not fucking likely", to tell us why that is? If you view Islam as the enemy; what do you know about your enemy then and why is Islam the fastest growing and spreading faith on earth do you think?
And as a reminder to everyone who wishes to get involved in this thread, we are determined to keep things civil here. It’s fine to disagree, but do so with respect. Thank you.
Fadi.
tat, I'm speaking here of basic human right that each and every human deserves. That is shelter, clothing, and food. And a system where if the person is able, to have him find a suitable occupation from which he can then look after himself and so on. Like I said, I don't claim to be an expert on Islamic jurisprudence (since it's a vast and complicated field of study), however I know what each Muslim aught to know without knowing all the intricacies of Islam.
Fadi.
Gunner, I really do appreciate your response mate. Furthermore, if I was to put myself in your shoes, I would feel the exact same way. What I really hate and would like to get across to the wider Australian community is the fact that people who claim to represent us (Muslims) do not do so in the least. No one who represents Islam or the Muslim community would go out of his way to upset a non Muslim or hurt their feelings. That goes right against the teachings of Islam. Like I said in my earlier posts; ignorance and at times arrogance is what these "Muslim community representatives" really represent.Fadi, I have nothing against Islam or in fact any faith. But for someone who represents a group of people on national tv to say "we're taking taking over" is abit rich for my liking.
We're very much alike on this matter then Gunner.I have the upmost respect for people beliefs, as long as they are not trying to force it on me.
Though I do not agree with all that you've said Sir, I very much respect it and thank you for sharing it.All systems are flawed though. I also tend to question why some people need a religion to believe in or guide them to be a good person. What's wrong with being a decent human being for the sake of being a decent human being and benefiting humanity as a whole? [/hippy]
Abide by the laws of the country or GTFO
tell that to Nelson Mandela, or Ghandi, or Malcolm X, or Charles Perkins, etc...
Very parochial.
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