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I think INCREASE in deadlift and vert is a good indicator
But not absolute result.
If a guy takes his vert from 30-40", this is a serious, serious athlete
So you would say the 50kg kid that can do pullups until the cows come home, but barely pull his dick past horizontal, stronger than the fat fucker who can pull 200 but couldn't do a pullup without a forklift to assist?
I personally would say deadlift is the best test of "absolute strength".. Although I do also agree with 0ni and co regarding performance measures being sport specific
So you would say the 50kg kid that can do pullups until the cows come home, but barely pull his dick past horizontal, stronger than the fat fucker who can pull 200 but couldn't do a pullup without a forklift to assist?
I personally would say deadlift is the best test of "absolute strength".. Although I do also agree with 0ni and co regarding performance measures being sport specific
I think a good well rounded course of exercises will improve a players the level of strength, but more importantly reduce the likelyhood of recieving an injury in training and game day.
increasing the strength of an athlete in the gym will not make them a better player to their specific sport.
It's almost impossible to measure power.
One example could be a man that squats 1.5 times his bodyweight for twenty rep's could have amazing ability to squat, but have weak quad strength.
another example, the bench press had been the measure of strength for many years and still is for many sporting codes, but that ability to bench large numbers seldom relates to the players ability on the field.
yes, sb, that is why power test should always be basic to reflect multitude of training programs.
Even then, they often don't mean much.
However, Calvin Johnson, incredible power and incredible athlete (3.5m standing long) and 195cm and 110kg. I suppose freaks have both: great specific skills and great athletic and strength power.
yes, but all fair dinkum sports must and do strive for some effective power tests measures.
big three tests for me if I was a sports coach, outside specific lifts or sports, would be overhead shot for pure power regardless of bodyweight, and standing long and/or standing vertical.
yes, but all fair dinkum sports must and do strive for some effective power tests measures.
big three tests for me if I was a sports coach, outside specific lifts or sports, would be overhead shot for pure power regardless of bodyweight, and standing long and/or standing vertical.
at the moment, all we have is what's called "progressive resistance".
Squatting 100kg x 10
if that player is squatting 150 x 10 three months down the track, you would think that player is stronger, flexible and ultimatly more mobile, which, at the end of the day is what is wanted...to be able to extract the raw material, to make better the player in the given sport, in training and ultimatly game day?