Was 170 before first halo run, 200 end of week 4. Dropped back to 180 or so after if i remember correctly. A truely incredible drug
You can go from a 170-200kg deadlift in 3 weeks by eating a burrito
Was 170 before first halo run, 200 end of week 4. Dropped back to 180 or so after if i remember correctly. A truely incredible drug
I am not picking sides - nor do I want to/need to - I think there are things both of you have been saying that is fairly stupid - but prob just in the heat of the moment.
I do think though Genics - and this isnt a dig at you - that if you are 100kg/6'3 that if you were only deadlifting 170kg when you started steroids maybe you should of thought about if you were ready to take anything? You may of had a huge squat and bench and your deadlift was just falling behind - but really some1 your size should prob hit a 200kg deadlift within the 1st 12-24 months of their training life - naturally.
I personally believe there is no1 on this forum that should be giving advice about drug use - unless there are acouple of guys hiding that dont post much.
No1 on this forum has the experience to talk about what other people should or should not be taking.
I know people can do alot of personal study etc and uyes I do believe that will give you a fantastic understanding - but on the other hand, have you used the products yourself, have you been around people who have been using etc etc etc - I guess the best education for someone is when they can gain the life experience and also the knowledge through reading/studying...
I am not picking sides - nor do I want to/need to - I think there are things both of you have been saying that is fairly stupid - but prob just in the heat of the moment.
I do think though Genics - and this isnt a dig at you - that if you are 100kg/6'3 that if you were only deadlifting 170kg when you started steroids maybe you should of thought about if you were ready to take anything? You may of had a huge squat and bench and your deadlift was just falling behind - but really some1 your size should prob hit a 200kg deadlift within the 1st 12-24 months of their training life - naturally.
I personally believe there is no1 on this forum that should be giving advice about drug use - unless there are acouple of guys hiding that dont post much.
No1 on this forum has the experience to talk about what other people should or should not be taking.
I know people can do alot of personal study etc and uyes I do believe that will give you a fantastic understanding - but on the other hand, have you used the products yourself, have you been around people who have been using etc etc etc - I guess the best education for someone is when they can gain the life experience and also the knowledge through reading/studying...
Your making alot of wrong asumptions
this thread is primarily about strength you gain from gear.
So far two people have posted anything. Myself, who has taken both moderate and brief large doses long ago (about 20 years ago), and got around 15% improvement, and Genics. I forgot to add earlier, when I listened to the galahs and took a higher dose, I noticed absolutely no further strength increase than more moderate doses, albeit I looked a lot bigger, as suggested by articles cited by Oni.
I think there are plenty of people on this forum that could post something of relevance, but they won't.
So really, leave Genics alone. He may not even give a fuck about deadlifts. There are plenty of bb's that would do a lot more in this lift if they actually knew how to. But maybe they don't give a damn.
As for posting articles, keep them coming. Some of the biggest dickheads I ever knew on the subject of drugs were actually the bb's winning titles (and getting serious side effects). So much for experience.
Free speech baby, keep the articles coming, as well as listen to experience (good and bad).
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