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Spotting the squat


Was he squatting in a cage?

I've seen squatter using Vulcan type racks, the squatter got stuck and a *good* spotter virtually pull the bar of the back of a trainee.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euN4UaohtNw

Here is the 400kg squat in comparison, he lost the groove so tried to stand back up, no chance in hell of catching that with hands on top of the bar, he would have thrown it off his back. (yes i realise my hand is through the sling)

Say what you like, but look at the big misses in PA, with spotters hands on the bar, i have seen many many bars hit the floor, bounce off the spotter etc. before the side spotters even know whats going on. I am yet to see a bar hit the slings in a QLD GPC Meet.

If you grind out a rep, and almost miss it, then go for another one, you deserve to get pinned, there is a difference between finding your "limit" and stupidity.
 
If any of the spotters touch the bar/lifter in GPC, they are red lighted instantly, i have seen it happen on many occasion and have given a red light for it myself.
 

yeah, I understand that and I agree.

Some strength coaches in NFL seem to be adopting this (hands-on) method
 
Nah, we don't use cages.

That was my first and last time spotting like that, so for sure, someone that is a good spotter with that technique may have handled the situation better. Although if the lifter gets into proper trouble and weight is above the spotters capabilities I'm not sure what outcome would be. For me, a spotter at each end is a much safer option, not always ideal, but safer. Also my guys only get one use of the spotters, once the spotters have helped, the bar gets racked.
 
lkt004 said:
If any of the spotters touch the bar/lifter in GPC, they are red lighted instantly, i have seen it happen on many occasion and have given a red light for it myself.
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I know this rule is enforced well in GPC Australia, but the fact it has needed to be enforced on many occasions is not ideal IMO. There is a problem if lifters are routinely being red-lighted for the actions of the spotters.

I think there is a middle ground here. I agree it is much better and safer practice to spot the body than the bar, but the back spotter can keep their hands further away from the body of the lifter.
 


Is is that you spotting?

make sure either arms aren't in the safety straps next time.
 
High Road said:
I'm not sure I'd use a spotter for that rep scheme, but that's just me
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Not all the time.
the coach/spotter should make the judgement call.

In a squat cage...
if I told my trainee, today we are going to take that weight that you do ten with and attempt a twenty rep set, i'de be standing there, and towards the end I'd place my hands lightly on the bar whispering encouragement
 
If you are doing 20 reps, in a cage why would you need a spotter?

The craziest 20 rep I saw was Sticky doing 160 for 20 reps... that was about 60% of his 1rm at the time.
he did it out of squat stands on a platform and used bumper plates as his failsafe.

so if you are using 50-60% of your 1rm and going for 20 reps and in a cage with safety bars, why do you need a spotter?

if it's just to take some of the load or give some encouragement, then I guess it kinda makes sense.
 
The best squat performance i ever saw was from a 52 y/o that squatted 185 x 23, at 72kg B/W he baled out on 24, in the squat position that is.
This was part of a workout, which included; press, rows, pullovers, curls and Farmer's.

This was not just a oncer, but a regular workout, fuck that is inspiring to watch.

He had no spotter, he is a famous strength coach.
 
that's some crazy shit.

probably would have got 30 with you whispering in his ear and touching his bar though right?
 
He'd actually get pissed off when people would comment stuff like "that's crazy"

He couldn't understand all the fuss, "it was just something we did every week, year in year out, it's just how we worked out it's all we knew."
 
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