The heaviest squat I failed on was 200kg
I went down, starting coming back up and just as I got back up to parallel I couldn't go any further and started to go back down again.
My Spotter had his arms under my pits ready to grab me.
and he did.
basically like a bear hug to help me squat back up.
how would you have done this by having your hands on the bar?
It would be too high to do like an upright row..
if you move the bar in a path that is out of my squat path if would throw me off balance and you'd be left with the entire weight and have me fall back towards you.
In a comp you also have side spotters AND straps attached to the monolift (unless PA/IPF where it's stands)
no way you can help with hands on the bar.
If someone is squatting 150kg, hands on the bar is fine. Anything above that and if they fail spectacularly you have no chance of saving them, i picked my training partner up with 400kg on the bar, not a chance i would have been able to help with my hands on the bar. Much easier to just help them up from behind.
from a competition max effort point of view, spotter behind, grabbing body, is key.
But, from a training point of view, silverback's point is quite plausible.
Personally I hate anyone touching me or bar when doing reps, but maybe there is some merit in terms of proper reps towards end of set in terms of motion and so on.
You've posted this in the powerlifting section.
High rep squats = 5 reps.
Powerlifters doing 5 reps = a weight you can't safely handle by hands on the bar.
Also, powerlifters generally don't do the "it's all you bro, 3 more reps" spots.
The spotter is purely there to catch if they fail that rep and get them back up to standing... ONCE... that's it.
The lifter should know their limits, the spotter is there to help if something goes wrong, not pick the lifter up after stupidly going for another rep.
You've posted this in the powerlifting section.
High rep squats = 5 reps.
Powerlifters doing 5 reps = a weight you can't safely handle by hands on the bar.
Also, powerlifters generally don't do the "it's all you bro, 3 more reps" spots.
The spotter is purely there to catch if they fail that rep and get them back up to standing... ONCE... that's it.
I've posted this in the powerlifting/strength training forum also doofas.
The lifter should know their limits, the spotter is there to help if something goes wrong, not pick the lifter up after stupidly going for another rep.
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