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[Rugby] Rugby League & Rugby Union discussions.

All Blacks tour team: (Sonny Bill Williams - Yea boy!!!)

Forwards:

John Afoa Auckland (25)
Anthony Boric North Harbour (16)
Daniel Braid Auckland (4)
Tom Donnelly Otago (13)
Hikawera Elliot Hawke’s Bay (0)
Ben Franks Tasman (7)
Owen Franks Canterbury (17)
Andrew Hore Taranaki (47)
Jerome Kaino Auckland (33)
Richie McCaw (capt) Canterbury (89)
Keven Mealamu Auckland (80)
Liam Messam Waikato (5)
Kieran Read Canterbury (25)
Brad Thorn Canterbury (46)
Samuel Whitelock Canterbury (8)
Tony Woodcock North Harbour (69)




Backs:

Andy Ellis Canterbury (14)
Daniel Carter Canterbury (74)
Jimmy Cowan Southland (41)
Stephen Donald Waikato (19)
Hosea Gear Wellington (2)
Cory Jane Wellington (20)
Alby Mathewson Wellington (1)
Mils Muliaina Waikato (89)
Ma’a Nonu Wellington (52)
Josevata Rokocoko Auckland (66)
Sitiveni Sivivatu Waikato (43)
Conrad Smith Wellington (41)
Isaia Toeava Auckland (26)
Sonny Bill Williams Canterbury *

* new All Black
 
For the guys with Foxtel:

Saturday 30 October, All Blacks v Australia, Hong Kong Stadium, Hong Kong
Saturday 6 November, All Blacks v England, Twickenham, London
Saturday 13 November, All Blacks v Scotland, Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Saturday 20 November, All Blacks v Ireland, AVIVA Stadium, Dublin
Saturday 27 November, All Blacks v Wales, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff


The England game will be great (best of the tour id say), also I think wales game will be interesting - the scotland game Id say we could see a Sonny Bill start...Irish game should be tough game also.

Would love to see some mid-week games against A teams or even club teams - where is the old school tours!
 
I don't have foxtel so ill be watching the Australian games I reckon Sonny will choke to be honest. It's too big a step up. All blacks to win all their games easily. This is a great set up for the world cup.

Anyway going to world cup?
 
Here are some rugby videos.

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I don't have foxtel so ill be watching the Australian games I reckon Sonny will choke to be honest. It's too big a step up. All blacks to win all their games easily. This is a great set up for the world cup.

Anyway going to world cup?
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I dont think he will choke but I do think he may make some decent mistakes trying to make things happen - u can see from watching the Itm cup that every time he gets the ball hes trying to make stuff happen and sometimes its great and sometimes its terrible - if he can structure his game then he will be one of the most dangerous players in the world come next yrs world cup...

I dont know how the coaches are planning on using him him but id prob bench him against England and maybe give him 20-30 mins game time - he should make an impact straight away but like I said may make mistakes trying to make things happen...

Depending on how he goes id start him V's Scotland and give him either a full 80 or at least 60 mins...to show what hes got.

At the end of the day u can tell hes trying his hardest to make things happen...you would rather a player making mistakes because he is looking to start things and not a player making mistakes coz he cant make things happen...@ 24, 108kgs and 6'3 this dude will do damage.
 
Yeah he will be good after a year of playing reserves. Just can't see Henry benching Nonu or Smith for a full game to be honest.
 
Yea mate - but this tour is pretty much a world cup test squad - everyone needs to get time....benching nonu or smith V scotland, ireland, wales (whichever) will be worth it to test out new players...

The All blacks can not be like the wallabies which did not want to test out new players and have paid for it now ...taking 2-3 years to re-build...
 
SBW picked on reputation only, has no credible form as yet. It will be interesting.
He may play against the Wallabies in Hong Kong.
 
Family are kiwi/english...Im the only person in my family born in Aus lol..

My teams - 1. All Blacks, 2. England, 3. British lions, super 14 teams - Wellington/Crusaders.

If I had a choice though it would be a very hard pick between New Zealand and England to play for...I think British lions would be the highest honour....good job I will never have to make that decision lol
 
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What did ppl think of the Aus V PNG game? - PNG deafened well I think, No.4 was a machine in defence - just wish they had more attack...

Aus played pretty shit I think but PNG shut them down abit - to be honest alot of the players looked scared lol....

Wallabies V All Blacks this weekend in Hong Kong to kick of both teams tours! - waiting to see the All Blacks team - we could see Sonny Bill! - would be great! - cant see Wallabies beating the All Blacks atm - but anything is possible if All Blacks dont field a full-strength side.

All Blacks V England the weekend after - this is a classic game! - should be great!
 
Australia were fairly ordinary against PNG but still won easily. England this weekend will be tougher but they'll still win. the game against the Kiwis will be very close and at this stage I think the Kiwi's might get up with Benji clearly a much better proposition these days over Lockyer, not even close.

All Blacks over the Waballies easily.
 
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Heard he plays 2nd div in England - good impact player lol

Did anyone see that Tana Umaga has signed with the NZ Chiefs super team for next yr - was semi-surprised - Tana seems like the kinda guy that if he thinks hes still got it he will give it 100% if not then he will let it go...the question is will he put his hand up for a possible All Black spot in next yrs world cup....is that the reasoning behind it? - seeing as though New Zealand are prob in the best spot now more so than ever to win the world cup....

Chiefs sign ex-All Blacks captain Tana Umaga

Also All Blacks team to take on Wallabies this weekend:

Starting XV:
1. Tony Woodcock (69)
2. Keven Mealamu (80)
3. Owen Franks (17)
4. Brad Thorn (46)
5. Tom Donnelly (13)
6. Jerome Kaino (33)
7. Richie McCaw – captain (89)
8. Kieran Read (25)
9. Jimmy Cowan (41)
10. Daniel Carter (74)
11. Josevata Rokocoko (66)
12. Ma’a Nonu (52)
13. Conrad Smith (41)
14. Cory Jane (21)
15. Mils Muliaina (89)

Reserves:
16. Hikawera Elliot (uncapped)
17. John Afoa (25)
18. Samuel Whitelock (8)
19. Daniel Braid (4)
20. Alby Mathewson (1)
21. Stephen Donald (19)
22. Isaia Toeava (26)

No Sonny Bill - no hugely surprised - id say we will see him come off the bench V Scotland.
 
Go the chiefs, i hope umaga makes a big impact for their team.

Also, go waikatio for ITM cup.

All blacks to win tonight , by 2 tries.
 
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