Question on Fat Cells

Sticky said:

I had the worst eating/drinking/drug habits out of everybody. Period.
I never ate veggies as a kid, my parents and siblings STILL don't.

One day, I woke up to myself and realized the reason my body was falling apart was because of the crap I was putting into it.
Im 23, how old is your "nurse" friend? What you eat today will effect what happens to you tomorrow.
I still go out to pubs/partys with my mates. They have NO influene on what i eat or drink. To say that they do is just weak.
You are your own person, and you decide what goes into your mouth. Everybody needs to realize that you can "eat what you want" but their will be a price.
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Yes I know their CAN be a price depending on how long it goes for. My Mum friend got breast cancer and she correctly changed her eating habits and didn't get chemo but had radiation therapy, it disappeared.

Then some people eat so well and end up with a brain temor and drop dead.

I guess most things can be reversed

Nurse is the same age as you

n00bs said:

I was talking about high school..

And its the children of younger generations that go home and teach their parents so they can implement changes.

Thats why i do...

Of courseit will change their attitudes towards eating!

People eat the way they do out of ignorance. because they dont know.. If they do know then they will change. The ones who dont have an iq of 20 and are performing idiot genocide.

All your friends worrying about putting on fat only because thats all they know. If they understood how they put on fat and the workings of it it would be a different story.

All they understand is "junk" = fat gain.

Just because 20-30 year olds are too lazy and ignorant to care about their health does not mean that we should not give better opportunities to future generations.

Are you on heroin? Worth the extra funding.. Do you have any idea the toll on the health system food related disease has???


I cant believe we are having this discussion.

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I disagree. MOST people don't eat out of ignorance. Its because they really don't give a shit, as gtrb2 pointed out. We all know drinking alcoholm smoking, taking drugs, eating crap like kfc and maccas is bad, but we still do it because most of us either don't give a crap OR don't have the will power.

Even if you teach a kid that vegies are good and kfc is bad, do you really think they will automatically choose a brocolli over a crispy chiken strip?

When people decide they've abused their bodies enough, they will change, no need to ram change down their throats because honestly, it doesn't work.

Sticky said:

I still go out to pubs/partys with my mates. They have NO influene on what i eat or drink. To say that they do is just weak.
You are your own person, and you decide what goes into your mouth. .
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Same deal with me. Though I started doing that back around when I was 18 or so. I didn't have a drop of alcohol from 18-21, and don't drink particularly much at all nowadays. Maybe 1 beer a month or so, if I'm going to my mates to watch the Rugby after the Gym.

When I first started to change my eating habits I was ragged on by all my mates and even my own family thought it was "weird". The constant "Dude are you on a diet or something?" or the attempted guilt trips from parents because you don't want to eat a huge bowl of pasta or a loaf of bread just because they made it for dinner. Eventually they stopped saying anything and now my mates listen to me on nutritional advice. Parents will never listen to me, but they have adjusted how they eat, mainly not eating bread particularly or cutting down on the amounts of pasta/white rice they have for dinner etc.

Semi-Sedentry + Nutritionally void dense energy source, just before bed = Fail. They've adjusted to more whole foods and less processed crap which is great. They even say they feel better for it. Go figure.

But saying that other people influence what YOU eat/drink because of some kind of "social pressure" is absolute bullshit. It's just an excuse for not having any will power what so ever to change yourself or your habits.

Well I guess I'm weak, whenever my bf comes over I eat so much crap, but I don't really care.

John555 said:

I disagree. MOST people don't eat out of ignorance. Its because they really don't give a shit, as gtrb2 pointed out. We all know drinking alcoholm smoking, taking drugs, eating crap like kfc and maccas is bad, but we still do it because most of us either don't give a crap OR don't have the will power.

Even if you teach a kid that vegies are good and kfc is bad, do you really think they will automatically choose a brocolli over a crispy chiken strip?

When people decide they've abused their bodies enough, they will change, no need to ram change down their throats because honestly, it doesn't work.

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John plase describe what "bad" is..

If your someone in this thread their definition of bad for you is youll get fat. Then others deep in the back of their mind its you might get cancer when your 60?

I cant believe this even needs debate. Its absolutley ridiculous. Goout side look at people... Then go to the hospital look at people. Matter of fact go speak to people on dialysis due to renal failure from diabetes and ask them if they would of liked to avoid what is happening to them.

It is 100% ignorance, they dont give a shit because they are ignorant idiotic morons. The idea is to change that. Educate people...

The argument here is people dont care so why bother...

Well alot of people dont get jobs they sit on the dole and get stoned everyday. Do we therefore say school is a waste of time because these people dont end up going?

Your arguments are null and void. Just because some people are idiots does not mean that the rest of the world has to follow in their or your shoes.

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Well I guess I'm weak, whenever my bf comes over I eat so much crap, but I don't really care.

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Yes an yes.

Noobs I'm curious what you would have in this new subject? What would you teach the students? What would be the topics? How in depth would you go? What year levels would you have this in?

n00bs said:

Yes an yes.

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At least I'm honest, I eat crap not because I'm stupid, it taste better. I tried the whole healthy eating but boring or you have to cook and really cbf, so I hardly ate which is just as bad

Put it this way, i learnt more about aborigonals in school then health and nutrition..

Anything is better then what they have currently.

n00bs said:

Put it this way, i learnt more about aborigonals in school then health and nutrition..

Anything is better then what they have currently.

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I'm interested to know, because you are always saying people don't know what food can do to you and you seem to want to talk about more in depth problems, so would you take the subject that in depth?

Would you just inform what most people know, that food that is highly processed is bad for you.

You could tie it to science and biology, that way it would make more sense. Though obviously it would be another subject.

However people are resistant to change and usually not wiling to embrace change.

For example. We are all worried about the governments spending on hospitals and the medical system. We wantmore money pumped into it more money for this more beds. Logically to me it seems that the hospitals are fine it is the patient demands. Lower the patients thus the money is not stretched so far.

Majority of people in hospitals are there because of their actions at the dinner table. Majority of people die for the very same reason.

We have 1 life its short some people dont get to have it. I can see your points of view. Because i was once like you. How bad can it be? If it was that bad they wouldnt be able to sell it to me the government would protect us.

Seeing my uncles battle with hospitals and lack of nutrition that lead to his current condition also pushes me more in this direction. He does not want to die.. Yet it may very well happen very soon and its too late to do anything all because of what went into his mouth... Yet he didnt know and no one told him. Why wasnt this taught in schools he says to me. What can i say? Besides the fact that it wasnt really known or accepted people cant seem to fathom that simply putting certain things in youmouth can do so much.

People look to GP's for answers.. However they practice pharmacology. So they learn diseases and drug administration to those diseases.

Society seems to be able bandaiding problems after they happen.. Eat shit now use insulin later. Why not stop that whole process? Do companies that have vested interests in governments and regulatory bodies not want profits to head south?

Maybe the government doesnt want hospitals empty... Maybe we are $$ and not people. I dont know but the more you look into it the more it seems that way.

I ****ed my bowels. want to know how? Sucralose and artificial sweetners in all the whey i was taking. The ph is changed in the gut the good bacteria is killed off bad bacteria spreads and our health is defined by our intestinal health and permiability.

Once someone kills good bacteria in their gut can it come back? Certain types can but certain types cant.

That is just 1 example. Then allthe implications that stem from that systems breakdown is astounding and simple to large for the grasp of this post.


The point is everything is more complicated then people are lead to believe. I dont want to be a sheep. That is why i do what i do.

You shouldnt want to be a sheep either.

See you had something happen to you. It seems that people to change they need something major to happen in their life. Like druggies need to go so low before they seem to go up, its like they need to hit rock bottom before they get help. People need to get a serious health problem before they quit smoking or before they stop eating so much fried food.

The bed problem is joke, most people seem to be in there for no real good reason. When I was in hospital due to a leg injury I wanted to go home, I was fine to go home but yet they wanted to keep me in their, someone more in need could have been using that bed.

I don't think the government will protect us they sell smokes.

I want liposuction. Not to make it easier but because of the nature of fat. Whats the point of shrinking the fat I want it gone damn it!

I know a guy who said he would start smoking if they could invent something that didnt give you all the health issues. I think id join him. I even have a name for it it can be lite like with food. They can apply it too all the replacement drugs like smack etc. Id fully start using crack cocaine lite if they invented it.








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Yes i agree, thats why i get so frustrated...

Because for alot of people it is too late.

Then we see people doing the same thing that put us in this position and we want to help them but all we are met with is resistance.

I suppose that is why alot of cutting edge knowledge you find only by searching because the people who know it dont preachit they got sick of everyone saying "are you sure?" " no i dont believe you" they must just give up put it there for those who want it and the rest of the population can get ****ed!

Do i want to help other people in an attempt to wish someone did the same to me thus releiving some anxiety of why i was left to the situation i have? Possibly i dont know im not a phsycologist.

However i do know that if it wasnt for markos drilling the word idiot into my head then i would not be on the direction i am on.

Yes i met him with resistance and are you sure at the start but then the idiot word got through to me.
Thats why hear all we want is people to be big strong happy and healthy.

I dont want people to be big and unhappy because they are unhealthy. I think all anyone wants for each other in this community is the best that they can be. I know that we are all not the best we can be so i try to find infomation on how we can be. Happy health strong can coexist.

As food technologists creates numbers to repalce ingridients on food without people knowing the damage behind those advertising campaigns are put in motion to assure as that eating something the body was not designed for is safe?

Yet throughout the rest of society it is all aobut safety.. No pod filters they are unsafe they might catch on fire. No coilovers they might not be safe. bucket seat and harness might not be safe in an accident. All this stuff that has no changes to safety besides positive if it is decent parts. Yet when it comes to food things that we know 100% are not safe are told otherwise....

Wtf is wrong with people? The governmnet included... It does my head in. I just dont understand it.

For the record I dont have a problem with food! I ****ing love food. I have a problem with companies devleoping chemicals to try and pass nutritionless cardboard off as food and society being told this is fine so people can get rich.

In other news..

When asked to "explain how deep squats won't screw up your femur/hips," so the person posting could explain it to his friend who believes that deep squats are harmful:
"Just because some jackass asserts a thing does not mean that it is worthy of refutation. If the same guy tells you that every space shuttle launch perturbs the Earth's orbit, and that the cumulative effects are just about to start the process of the loss of the atmosphere into space, thus creating a vacuum that will destroy all life on the planet in approximately 36 hours, would you deem this necessary to refute? How much time would you spend explaining to him why this cannot happen? Would not your time be spent better doing other things? And if you devise a concise explanation, why would you assume he would understand?"

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In Germany you are not allowed to add sugar into food. Now in America they do not have trans fat. Trans fat is extremely bad for you

So is sugar and the rest of the rubbish that goes into it..

Fact is trans fat are not so much as added but occur through the process in wich they are made..

Something can have no trans fat added. Doesnt mean its trans fat free.

n00bs said:

So is sugar and the rest of the rubbish that goes into it..

Fact is trans fat are not so much as added but occur through the process in wich they are made..

Something can have no trans fat added. Doesnt mean its trans fat free.

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"so sugar and the rest of the rubbish that goes into it" huh

I wonder what I will get from my eatting.. Cornflakes for breakfest, roll with tuna, cheese, avocado, mayo for lunch, milo for snack, dinner whatever easy to cook

So Noobs you don't eat anything that is "bad" for you?

I don't.
The worst in my diet would be a little bit of sugar when cooking muesli bars, my WPC, my BCAA's, meat.
Everything else is raw and/or organic.
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