That's OK then
Well they both weigh the same, a kg is a kg. I think density is the word he is after.
This is not news, has been around and known even by the old body builders in the 70's.
Well you can eat what ever you want, but research has shown that weight loss is strongest in the morning after you wake up and are fasted, having carbs will instantly spike your insulin, instantly stopping that process. While you can have fat and proteins which will not spike insulin to the same level prolongig the weight loss. Obviously if you have too much fat/protein then this will also stop you losing weight. unfortunatly I remeber reading that eggs can also spike insulin, but this can be reduced by having fat (bacon??) with the eggs.
The research is out there you just need to read it, it's also explained in CBL and Carb Nite along with references to teh scientific studies relating to it, I am at work so can't really find it for you now, but easy enough to look up yourself and have a read.
Mick you said add 10kg WEIGHT, read the fucking post.
Personally at your height you should be aiming to put on 10kg not lose more weight, but obviously make that muscle not fat
Best bacon justification ever!unfortunatly I remeber reading that eggs can also spike insulin, but this can be reduced by having fat (bacon??) with the eggs.
I still want to see these pics of 110-115kg lean naturals Mick is talking about.
110-115kg at 186cm and 15% body fat gives a FFMI in the 27-28 range. Well above the limit said for natural lifters. Not sure where Mick is seeing all these genetic freaks walking around.
Someone at 120kg natural and the same height is likely to be well into the 20%BF. Not what I would consider lean or healthy.
I did not only read it I wrote it, unfortunatly you only managed read half of the sentence, and decided to ignore the second half
Just for your and other reading this information I have again quoted it again, may be this time read the whole sentece in it's entirety. I have even bolded the part you did not read or fully understand.
Best bacon justification ever!
Muscle about 1.06kg per litre, fat about 0.9kg per litre..18% difference only
Don'y have any interest in trawling through persons stats, pretty much look at and footballer over 6 foot or may be look at the US American Footbal Players.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Williams_(American_football)
This guy does not look obese yet he is 147kg
http://t.mensfitness.com/leisure/sports/fittest-nfl-players
Or these guys all over 100kg, all very lean, check out the abs on Terrel Owens, at 6'3" and 230lb, really he is super obese
Well who here has trained hard enough and dieted strict enough to find out what genetics they have??
So I guess now that you have seen plenty of blokes over 100kg and lean, you are suggesting they are drug cheats or just gifted.
So I could show you a hundred photos and you would still come up with an excuse as to why you can't get to that weight.
This is the issue here isn't it, your own lack of body/muscle mass?? Just beacuse you can't do it, so everyone else that has must be fat or cheating
Joel is shorter and looks pretty lean and build from what I have seen and keeps himself over 100kg, not sure what his drug use status is though?? (not accusing him of anything, I just don't know).
oh oh looks like Bazza is also on Mick's does not lift list
thats JUNK!
Breakfast- omlet, 3x eggs, chicken, bacon, onion, capsicum, and hot sauce. <-- wth is this?
omelette ( how do you cook it ) , 3 eggs, bacon wtf.
I dont care for your calorie count is higher or lower, you can eat more good stuff then what the above is and eat as much as you want get used to the new foods as this is a life long commitment
FIRST
cook only in virgin olive oil, only a little bit.
2nd
e.g Breakfast / un processed oats with little bit of honey / 2 eggs/ 5 egg whites/ banana/ protein shake - make the protein shake e.g skim milk, LSA , protein powder wsi/wpc or even in water and add what you want
mid morning meal - add 5-6 lean steak / 5-6 ounces kangaroo/ steamed vegetables and or rice.
Lunch = brown rice/ chicken breast with salad
Afternoon = have a protein shake with water or snack on your almonds
Dinner = Fish with steamed veggies, add some egg whites, or sweet potatoe.
dont eat PORK / DUCK ... the meats are really fatty have some chicken / turkey/kangaroo/LEAN BEEF
eat more veggies/salads. ( cauliflower/carrots/brocolli/ etc) steam for 1 minute and take it out.
Concentrate on UN PROCESSED FOODS, if it comes in a packet or its far away from its original form dont eat it.
Stick to a natural diet and drink a lot of water. If you have to have sugar have it in the morning, brown sugar
Yes this shit tastes like arse, and yes you will be disgusted but if you going to do it, do it right and it will take you to your goal 90% is diet 10% training !
sorry im harsh but once i saw the bacon and tomatoe sauce i was like wtf
Mick the research done on limits of natural muscle mass was done on elite bodybuilders in the pre steroid era. It's very well accepted. They were hardly mugs in the muscle mass department. Even more recent research hasn't been able to find natural lifters going over this but you think you know heaps of people that do. Lol.
Here is some reading but there is more.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/re...abolic-androgen-steroids-research-review.html
Like I said all along I count 10% as lean. Mick you seem to count 25%BF as lean. That's probably where our differences lie.
oh oh looks like Bazza is also on Mick's does not lift list
what's your waist measurement [MENTION=8428]Big Mick[/MENTION];
He is number one on the list.
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