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My diet in progress



Mick I am not confusing anything. If I say weight I mean weight. Fat I mean fat and muscle I mean muscle.

Do you seriously think he is just going to add 10kg muscle overnight. Lol. It could take years. Someone already fat eating to gain weight will get even fatter.

You can lose fat much much quicker than gain muscle.
 

This exactly, 100kg for somone around 6 foot is not a lot, a work mate of mine is a triathelte and he weighs 96kg, and he is shreaded, and about 6 foot. Does not even lift.

Leanish isn't lean and most people underestimate how fat they are.

Most peopel would be considered lean at 10-15% BF, and less than that is not really sustainable, I good personal friend of mine who is a competing body builder with several state and national titels including two first places I believe and who is 100% natural, gets around at about 12% and he looks ripped, but gets down to 6% for contests, but literially puts on 6-10kg in the week after comp, to a more sustainable weight.

When a body builder steps on stage is weak, dehydrated and probably almost delirious with hunger, I know my mate was raving like a lunatic the last week before his contest, eating weight portions of boiled chicken breast and brown rice with no added salt day in day out,
 
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The numbers mick is claiming for lean naturals( I'm saying lean is 10% range ) is well over the research on bodybuilders showing the human limits of muscle mass without drugs. And not just a little bit over, well over

A fat free mass index of 25 is considered the limit for lean naturals.
 

Really poor advice here
 

I never said he was going to add 10kg of muscle overninght, it's irrelevant how long it will take, but he needs to start doing it if that is what he is interested in, so again you said my advice to the OP to add 10kg of muscle is dumb?? Still waiting for the explanation as to why it is dumb??

There is no reason teh OP can not be gaining muscle while getting rid of that body fat, especially as a beginner, with a decent diet, consuming the right foods/protein and hard training, the OP's weight can well be increasing while his body fat melts away, lean muscle mass weights a lot less that fat.
 

Bloody hell Mick!!!

Starts off strong then completley loses the plot...

I can't eat sugar in the morning now????
 


Mick you said add 10kg WEIGHT, read the fucking post. Adding 10kg weight will just make him fatter.

Like I said he can lose 10kg fat and look better and be healthier in a couple months. Do this while lifting to gain muscle. 10kg muscle will take years. This doesn't even mention the better nutrient partitioning that you get when leaner. The fatter you are the more fat you add when gaining weight.
 
Bloody hell Mick!!!

Starts off strong then completley loses the plot...

I can't eat sugar in the morning now????

This is not news, has been around and known even by the old body builders in the 70's.

Well you can eat what ever you want, but research has shown that weight loss is strongest in the morning after you wake up and are fasted, having carbs will instantly spike your insulin, instantly stopping that process. While you can have fat and proteins which will not spike insulin to the same level prolongig the weight loss. Obviously if you have too much fat/protein then this will also stop you losing weight. unfortunatly I remeber reading that eggs can also spike insulin, but this can be reduced by having fat (bacon??) with the eggs.

The research is out there you just need to read it, it's also explained in CBL and Carb Nite along with references to teh scientific studies relating to it, I am at work so can't really find it for you now, but easy enough to look up yourself and have a read.
 
Its funny the fad only a few years ago was carbs in the morning but no carbs at night. Now it's no carbs in the morning and carbs ok at night. Mick if you follow all these fads why are you so fat. Lol. Oh that's right because they are bullshit fads.
 
Definitely need and 10kg of muscle but definitely don't need to put on any more ither..... As for the diet trying a low carb approach as I feel like shite importantI eat carbs.

Here's my 90day challenge pic


Keep it simple...

Slight calorie deficit for the next 6 months - try a couple of different diet approaches and find one that suits you... Sustainable dieting is the key here and counting calories is important imo...

No need for cardio in your case unless you want to eat more...

The PTC begginer program 3 times a week is perfect...

Adjust your calories month to month as required to maintain body recomp
 
[MENTION=16067]iamwilso[/MENTION]; has also lost a sock.

Get after those squats and dead-lifts, you need to add 5kg of muscle tissue to those legs.
Actually, that's your goal right there.
5kg each leg.

If you can't lose fat in a couple of weeks, make some adjustments to your diet, but don't rely on cardio for fat loss.
 

Protein spikes insulin just as high as carbs...

Herp derp et.al...