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I'm not a weight lifter, I'm a bodybuilder - Kai Greene
You really think Kai Greene built that physique moving light weights?
Look at it in context this is a 120kg pro, loaded up with anabolics trying to develop a 'perfect' physique not a 20 yo kid who weighs 70kg and is trying to bulk to 73kg.
His advice has it's place but let's be real show me anyone who has developed decent arms by concentrating on contracting while repping out 7.5kg dumbells, doesn't happen. It's this kind of shit that leads to young guys doing ridiculous programmes and never progressing.
KungFooGoo
Gangster
Pretty sure this created a fucking shit storm on T-Nation...so does everything though...
.........nothing wrong with that....
.........nothing wrong with that....
We were all 70kg once, the difference is your progressing cause your not lifting like a fucking spaz cause some pro told you it's the secret to getting big.
Edit: should say most of us were 70kg once spose there are plenty of ex fatties among us that were never 70kg.
bradsky
do I even lift?
Do what you want, but, this video is 100% true. It's all about using the correct muscle, and if you can only get 8 reps with perfect form with 7kg dumbells. Then 7kg dumbells it is!
Biceps is the extreme, most body builders I talk to don't use anything over 15kg on biceps. Some don't squat more than 65kgs and have mammoth legs.
But I am yet to practice what I preach until the last few weeks. Actually dropping the weight and doing the exercise with full form, and contracting the muscle to move the weight, instead of just moving my arm is a bit of a mind f*ck.
Biceps is the extreme, most body builders I talk to don't use anything over 15kg on biceps. Some don't squat more than 65kgs and have mammoth legs.
But I am yet to practice what I preach until the last few weeks. Actually dropping the weight and doing the exercise with full form, and contracting the muscle to move the weight, instead of just moving my arm is a bit of a mind f*ck.
spartacus
Well-known member
Plenty of top bodybuilders get big traning heavy, but i agree with Green pretty much.
Intensity can be made very tough, even on moderate weights. I once trained with a Mr Universe in the early 1990s who many thought was quite weak because he trained on 30kg barbell curls and did incline benches. I was wrecked and sore for days from such a focus on form. The bodybuilder indicated he had trained the same way most of his career.
Intensity can be made very tough, even on moderate weights. I once trained with a Mr Universe in the early 1990s who many thought was quite weak because he trained on 30kg barbell curls and did incline benches. I was wrecked and sore for days from such a focus on form. The bodybuilder indicated he had trained the same way most of his career.
Goosey
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For building strength and size over a protracted time safely.
The weight is not important, what is key is the quality of the set and repitition and that the last repitition of the set is taken close to fatigue.
to maximize the ability to stimulate growth and strength, over the long haul you cannot achieve strength without growth and you cannot achieve growth without improving strength.
The intensity of work, how hard you work and how much pain you feel will be subjective, but I guarantee, that results are tangible.
bradsky
do I even lift?
well said. It's how hard you will work. not how heavy the weight is.
Goosey
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Exactly Andy and well said
I think Bazza also said something very similar in Chad's old thread.
Working to momentary muscular fatigue on an exercise, rushing to the next and repeating this throughout the workout, working so hard you have to lye down is by far the most efficiant, result producing type of protocol one can do, is does require immense mental strength to do this week in week out.
The degree of intensity of work reflects this.
This and this,
Anyone really think he got that squat & bench without heavy lifting?
If you believe that you're beyond help.