How much water do you drink a day?

[Rugby88]

How much water do you drink a day and how much do you think you SHOULD be drinking?

 

[Headley]

Not nearly enough and it is a problem

 

[Bazza20]

Drink when thirsty.

Amount varies depending on how thirsty.

 

[Rugby88]

Drink when thirsty.

Amount varies depending on how thirsty.

So you wait until your nearly dehydrated or dehydrated to drink water?

 

[StrungOut]

Have a 2L bottle on my desk, I go through it at least twice a day. Then will smash through more when I get home or at basketball

 

[White_Lie]

At work, thru winter at least 3L, summer is close to a litre per hour if I'm outside so 10-12L.
At home is more like 3-4L but I'm usually not doing much other than training

 

[Bazza20]

So you wait until your nearly dehydrated or dehydrated to drink water?

No. I wait until I'm thirsty.

You seem to be wrongly assuming that you are dehydrated when you become thirsty.

It's just fancy these days to be sipping on water all day.

 

[Rugby88]

No. I wait until I'm thirsty.

You seem to be wrongly assuming that you are dehydrated when you become thirsty.

It's just fancy these days to be sipping on water all day.

Its a very good sign that your body is becoming dehydrated - I dont think its fancy - its common sense.

 

[Bazza20]

Its a very good sign that your body is becoming dehydrated - I dont think its fancy - its common sense.

Lol. Thirst is a sign you are thirsty, so you have a drink.

Dehydration can mean any tiny loss of body water at all. So any time you are not taking in water you are dehydrating. At first signs of thirst you are not going to have actual clinical signs of dehydration.

Just drink if you are thirsty.

 

[White_Lie]

What Rugby is saying is correct.
If I wait until I'm thirsty working in summer (45+ in the shade), it's way too late.
If you're not in extreme conditions, you can obviously go longer without needing water but the same principal applies. If you're thirsty, you're already fairly dehydrated.

 

[Bazza20]

What Rugby is saying is correct.
If I wait until I'm thirsty working in summer (45+ in the shade), it's way too late.
If you're not in extreme conditions, you can obviously go longer without needing water but the same principal applies. If you're thirsty, you're already fairly dehydrated.

References for claims please.

 

[Bazza20]

according to Dr Heinz Valtin, a Dartmouth Medical School physician

In an invited review published by the American Journal of Physiology, Valtin reported that there is no supporting evidence to back up the popular recommendation to drink eight 8 oz. glasses of water per day..........The bottom line? Drink when you are thirsty, not because you believe you need to.

another

What we haven’t been taught, because there’s no money in it, is that the best rule of thumb is only to drink when you’re thirsty. That’s the conclusion of a scientific study just completed by Dr. James Winger of Loyola University Medical Center and several colleagues, who recently interviewed, weighed, poked, and prodded marathon runners to find out how they drank, when they drank, how much they drank — and what harmed or helped performance.
The critical takeaway: We all drink way too much water (and sports drinks), putting ourselves at risk of worse, not better athletic performance.

Yes, there’s lots of conventional wisdom around drinking, from the need to pound eight glasses of water a day to chugging a bottle an hour for cyclists. To which Dr. Winger responds: There’s no science behind those whatsoever. Zero. And the idea that you’re restoring electrolytes is absolute quackery, he says, because the amount of minerals and salts in these drinks is far too diluted to make a difference.

“The bottle an hour is just a convenient rule of thumb — in the past there have been calls to replace a liter of water for every kg of weight that you lose, but we know that even this can lead to overhydration,” Winger says.
And overhydration leads to reduced performance because your blood has to soak up some of the excess water in an attempt to equalize your body’s salinity. Then your cells begin to swell, causing all sorts of distress, from gastric to dizziness, soreness, and lots of other symptoms that do nothing to make you faster. In very severe instances you can wind up with major GI distress, vomiting, and the like. Go way overboard and there’s a risk of death, because cellular swelling in the brain — hyponatremia encephalopathy — can cause coma or worse.

Exercise-associated hyponatremia (EAS) isn’t rampant, but it’s far more common than symptoms of dehydration, and even mild forms will make you very uncomfortable.
A lot of what the study revealed is how popular media and advertising has skewed our perspective on hydration. The study points out that athletes now view dehydration as a “disease,” when it appears that our bodies are very well set up to perform slightly better when we’re somewhat dehydrated.
Here’s what else you should know:
LOSE WATER WEIGHT, GO FASTER.
“Fifty-five percent of our respondents indicated that drinking less correlates with a slower running performance. This is incorrect,” says Winger. “Marathon running, ultrarunning, triathlon, and cycling all show similar linear relationship between weight loss (which indicates less fluid intake) and performance (race time).” Dr. Winger points to a joint South African-French study that shows that mild dehydration, which is completely normal during exercise, corresponds to faster marathon event times across ages and skill sets.
SO I SHOULDN’T DRINK AT ALL?
Winger’s study doesn’t suggest abstaining from drinking during exercise, but concludes that if you drink when you’re thirsty rather than before, you’ll maintain perfectly adequate hydration. In fact, more experienced, and often faster runners in the study did just that and suffered much lower incidents of GI and other distress. Winger cautions that if it’s very hot, you should drink more but that your body will tell you this through thirst, and he says you cannot over-tax this mechanism. It’s ancient, animal, and simply paying attention to it is all the guidance you need.
ELECTROLYTE LOSS ISN’T A RISK, AND WON’T SLOW YOU DOWN.
If you don’t overhydrate, you simply don’t need to worry about electrolyte imbalances caused by major efforts. “There is no need to replace minerals during exercise, because the loss of minerals has no deleterious effect on the body,” Winger asserts, while noting that this applies to athletes who drink when they are thirsty, and don’t drink constantly. As for taking salt tabs during a race to offset over drinking, Winger says this is also unwise: “During a 26-mile marathon, there is no role during or after the race for oral supplementation of salt.” Winger says the one quick fix for someone who has overhydrated during training or racing is to hit an aid tent or E.R. and get “highly concentrated IV fluids (not normal IV fluids) that will then raise the blood’s concentration.”

 

[steveP]

I have a bottle at my desk I'm constantly sipping on. Including all the water used in protein shakes and taking vitamins, easily 4L.

You body is approx 70% water. Supplying it the bare minimum by only drinking when you're thirsty isn't smart nutrition.

 

[White_Lie]

From Daniel L. Johnson, MD, FACP, Sr. AME

We can learn from thirst
Thirst is analogous to shivering: shivering is a sign that we are already hypothermic; to repeat: Thirst is a sign that we are already dehydrated. You can trust it: thirst reliably tells you that you have become dehydrated, that you've missed your goal of staying hydrated.
As we noted, thirst appears at about 2% dehydration. The actual level varies from person to person, and sensitivity to thirst decreases substantially in old age. We can train ourselves to suppress this and other body appetites, or to be more sensitive to them; we can discipline ourselves to respond to thirst.

And from Wikipedia but referenced from

1. Kaneshiro, Neil K. "Dehydration". National Library of Medicine. Retrieved 10 June 2014.
2. Shirreffs SM, Merson SJ, Fraser SM, Archer DT (June 2004). "The effects of fluid restriction on hydration status and subjective feelings in man". Br. J. Nutr. 91 (6): 951–8. doi:10.1079/BJN20041149. PMID15182398.
3. "Dehydration Affects Mood, Not Just Motor Skills / November 23, 2009 / News from the USDA Agricultural Research Service". Ars.usda.gov. Retrieved 2012-11-09.

Symptoms of dehydration include thirst, headache, general discomfort, loss of appetite, dry skin, decreased urine volume, confusion, unexplained tiredness, and irritability.

Over hydrating may be detrimental to performance if you're a professional athlete but for average joe, waiting until you're thirsty is too late.
If you're older, on certain medications or whatever, the thirst mechanism kicks in even later.

 

[Bazza20]

Over hydrating may be detrimental to performance if you're a professional athlete but for average joe, waiting until you're thirsty is too late.

That makes so little sense its not funny.

 

[White_Lie]

Why?
Should I have said staying properly hydrated may be detrimental to performance?

 

[Bazza20]

Why?
Should I have said staying properly hydrated may be detrimental to performance?

Hope you had a sip of water during that post. You don't want to all of a sudden get dehydrated.

Drink when you are thirsty. End of thread.

 

[steveP]

I really expected more sound knowledge from this forum.

 

[White_Lie]

Yes Dr Bazza

 

[D1cko]

I find if I wait till I'm thirsty I'm done for, headaches and poor training sessions...work up in the Pilbara during summer and if you're not smashing water all day even if you don't feel like it, you're on a quick path to heat stress.