However, I think there is a big difference between masculine gender prejudices and expectations as experience by men and the oppression of women. The two are not equal and can't be treated in the same context.
Now I do have a willy so I can't claim to have no bias, but I'm interested as to how women are oppressed in Australia.
This is a fantasy. Whilst in some professional occupations, productivity has a bearing on how much you are paid, for the vast majority of workers asking your boss for a pay rise and them reciprocating isn't how things work. Your answer, go work somewhere else if you aren't satisfied. Pray tell, where? Do you realise that the employment options for women are much narrower for those than men. Having a uterus and the ability to fall pregnant makes you a liability. The reality is women are still overwhelming employed on a part-time and casual basis in low-paying, domestic industries. 'Taking your services elsewhere' is even less of a possibility for those without the education or experience necessary. This is precisely the 'blame the victim' mentality I mentioned above.
True, but not necessarily. Female students don't have the same opportunities to persue technical subjects such as wood work and metal work in school and TAFE due to lack of resources, familial obligations, social stigma among other factors.
Regardless of the formal equality women have in seeking education, the reality is women are under-represented in technical education: they are under-represented in science, mathematics and industrial arts subjects in high schools; under-represented in carpentry, plumbing, electrical, automotive maintance, etc. and over-represented in out-of-house domestic occupations such as hairdressing and midwifery at TAFE and other technical educational institutions; under-represented in engineering, mathematics and the natural sciences, and over-represented once again in out-of-home domestic occupations including education (particularly earl-childhood education) and nursing.
'Opportunities' are one thing, reality is another.
Which exist precisely because of discomfort and indimidation many women feel in weight rooms which have traditionally (and continue to be) dominated by men. In fact this point prooves what I'm saying, otherwise they wouldn't exist.
Actually, you're right. It is discrimination. What you fail to understand is that the problem isn't discrimination in the abstract. The problem is with the specific form that it takes, namely the oppression of and sstystematic discrimination again women.
On the specific point of 'cry wolf' rape cases, whenever this is brought up I feel the need to point out very strongly that these are an infantesimally small minority of rape cases and the amount of attention they often get in these sort of discussions belittles the very deep and life altering significance rape has for many women.
Only in Victoria do women have the right for abortion on demand regardless of circumstance and even then only up until 24 weeks. Across the rest of the country the a woman's right to make decisions about her own body is restricted (the exceptions being in the case of rape, mental illness, risks to the life of the mother, and even then these exceptions do not apply in all states!). Women seeking abortion are not only treated like criminals, in numerous cases they have actually been convicted!
Linked in with this point is the continued prevelance of physical and sexual abuse suffered by women and the barriers and difficulties in seeking help.
Despite the formal equality women possess in written law, reality does not conform. Women are still the second sex in our society. The people who deny that we live in a sexist society are either ignorant fools or mysognist pigs.
To be honest with you, I regret being dragged into a discussion on this point. What you are saying here is perfectly legitimate. I think access to education really doesn't get to the heart of the issue.
Nic.
Right, because how dare anyone demand better when there are people who have it worse!? How about we lower everyone to the level of that suffered by the most vulnerable and suffering people in the world!? Then they can have the right to complain!
Really? Is this you're argument? Are you even thinking before you type this shit up?
Nic.
A lot of the issues youve discussed relating to career, social and familial expectations are related to social conditioning, in which women are their own worst enemy.
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