Some people are bad, and will always be like that. Some people like to think that people get rehabilitated in prisons but the vast majority do not.
Prison should scare people into not re-offending. I agree that they should be hell on earth. Capital punishment should never have been abolished.
I guess many will be upset with that, but that's my opinion.
Like the USA? or russia? These places have tougher prisons and just as much, if not more crime.To me the number one aim of a prison should be to act as a deterrent to committing crime. They need to be absolute hellholes IMO so that the crims don't want to return and so that it's widely known how tough they are. I'd like to see Aussie prisons getting fearsome reputations like you hear about overseas.
Excellent plan. In this way we will take wussy criminals and make them tough and nasty criminals. We also ensure that when it looks like they might get caught, they are more likely to kill witnesses or police in order to escape prosecution.To me the number one aim of a prison should be to act as a deterrent to committing crime. They need to be absolute hellholes IMO so that the crims don't want to return
What degree are you doing Leachy? Sounds interesting.
spot onWork. You know that thing us non-criminals have to do EVERY FUCKING DAY just to get by?
They're already set up with jobs and work in prisons - manual labour like making licence plates. They could make bricks and tiles, as well as any number of things. Those items can then be sold to either cover costs or make a profit for the government. Failing that the items could be made available to needy people within the community.
In addition to the crims being kept busy and productive, if they learn actual trade skills then they're more likely to be able to integrate back into society and get a job.
I was a copper and I used to go into prisons on a weekly basis. They're no club med but the standard of living for many is ridiculously good. They have stores at which they can buy items with money they earn from work, spend hours each day in exercise yards and don't have to work if they don't want.
But i'll revise my opinion: Prison inmates should not have access to gyms, or the time to use them, unless they do a certain amount of work and pay for it- just like I have to.
To me the number one aim of a prison should be to act as a deterrent to committing crime. They need to be absolute hellholes IMO so that the crims don't want to return and so that it's widely known how tough they are. I'd like to see Aussie prisons getting fearsome reputations like you hear about overseas. This may actually help reduce crime incidents. Instead I've seen TV footage of cells with TV and Internet access. WTF?
I think the concept of them working towards a trade is worthwhile but it should be done on a limited basis....2 hours a day max and then lock them back up. Fuck letting them do weights. I'd be interested to hear about the re-offending rates for guys that get released. I've heard it's not an insignificant percentage. Why should we be letting these guys get stronger, more fearsome, and more capable of inflicting vicious assaults when they get out?
Great thread Andy.
Four pages and not one mention of the rights for the victims, you know, the girl that got raped, the baby that was bashed to death etc
Andy did say violent crimes
I dont have the answer, but I would hate to think of someone that committed a violent crime against a family member or friend doing lat pulldowns in jail.
It just doesnt seem right
I dont have the answer, but I would hate to think of someone that committed a violent crime against a family member or friend doing lat pulldowns in jail.
Good discussion guys.
I say get the 'Grade 1' Crimms.
Pack um up and send em to a 'special military' to fight
the 'Terrorist' <-- the "high risk area's". Iraq / Afghanistan.
Kill or be killed.
Done. Easy. Simple.
Devante.
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