Oliver I don't think you understood the joke. That was the reason I said 'sorry couldn't help myself'.
Markos pretty much summed it up. Benching is terrible on shoulder health so it gets a big negative there and when there are other great exercises out there that can do the same thing then I would put it further down the list.
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good to see the thread is still on topic
don't need to add anything, Markos is succinct as usual.
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Barbell? Dumb-bell?
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in what?
i didnt see anything about bench press not being a good mass builder...
Barbell. also happens with Dumbbell pullovers.
Does using dumb-bells hurt bench pressing?
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Do I have to be your father also?
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He did say overall upper body development not mass builder. He then said Markos summed it up which was about shoulder health, strength transfer (MP to BP, BP not to MP) and basically function (people push heavy stuff up over their head more often but rarely push it off themselves when they are on the floor).
BP will build mass it will not be as good for strength, function, shoulder health etc.
Is that better?
comment is totally lost on me.
just dont make up bs on the internet.
He did say overall upper body development not mass builder. He then said Markos summed it up which was about shoulder health, strength transfer (MP to BP, BP not to MP) and basically function (people push heavy stuff up over their head more often but rarely push it off themselves when they are on the floor).
BP will build mass it will not be as good for strength, function, shoulder health etc.
Is that better?
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