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first post g'day

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Timelord

New member
Timelord here
out of shape despite years of trying to improve body shape
starting claire gel soon but need to find the right diet and program
considering crossfit
or
down to local gym and get a program
bit flat energy wise at the moment but hoping getting back into training after a year away will brighten things up

i will read a bit on this forum then find where to post questions about diet to do with clenbuterol
i.e should it be low carbs, or is just low cals the main thing
and lifting frequency how much how often etc
stats
50yo male
sedentary job
5'6"
25-28% BF which is BS i know
and weak as bro
so need to fix this
thought i would focus on reducing the BF first then worry about strength gain
 
Do not take clen until you have an idea about diet and training for the love of God. please!

Welcome to Ausbb.
 
Troll post.

If serious forget clen if you insist on medicating your fatty problemsee a gp thete are options to kickstart weightloss.
 
Be weary with clen as others have mentioned.. not to be toyed with at any age let alone >40! All the best with the endeavors.
 
thanks Groar, i will hook up with trainer first, i do have some knowledge of dieting but there are lots of different school of thoughts, e.g i was doing crossfit and they are big into paleo, then or course there is keto, and cycling etc etc
i was just wondering what bodybuilders thought was the best in conjunction with clenbuterol

Darkoz, thanks old man or not we keep on farting, ( i mean working out hard haah)

Fluffy, I am surprised to be honest that anyone would think western medicine could help with fat loss, not many dr.s I know have a clue about fit and healthy body they specialise in sickness and peddling drugs, i.e duromine which is probably worse than claire

yes i will be careful with it, good diet, monitor HR and body T, and keep well hydrated with electrolyte replacements


anyone on the basics though, low carb, keto, cycle carbs, carbs only after train etc etc
 
Clen is not a drug I would fuck with, if you knew anything about clen you would realise in no way is it safer then taking a stim for appetite supression. Besides clen is really suited to lean people trying to get really lean not fat people with high bf%.

It might be areally out there idea but why not just exercise and diet.
 
o'k i am listening fluffy i will have a chat again with the guy who has talked me into clen
hard work, ok i get the concept but not every one has got fat being lazy
working very hard long hours in stressful job
as for training
always doing something, hx of gym, marathons, triathlons, gym again, personal trainer (the one that got me fat on his eating plan) back to running, then Crossfit before breaking down and year off
some people get fat during a particular phase
but then the problem is of course that the body won't release the fat for energy etc etc, calorie partitioning etc
so
ok i am hearing you guys and i will rethink this
but i am not lazy and given the hours i was working it is a wonder i ever even got to training at all
not helped by shift work at one point i may have started at 3pm finished at 11pm work again at 7am finish at 3pm training at 3.15 with working OT on days off
i dont do that now but body still resisting fat loss
 
ps
i am going to try to find time to read as much as i can for alternate plan on your site
do people agree at 25%+ BF i should focus on BF reduction therefore i need a fat loss plan
there are over a million of them out there
which are the types body builders use successfully
help please
 

At fifty you will need to be fit to get fit.
Think about what I said.
 
Mate honestly it's not about been lazy just like lifting it is consistency. It's really very simple eat less then you need. Get on one of the million calculators online and work out your maintenance cals then eat below that.

Count everything that passes your lips and isn't water. Your not gonna lose kg's in a week but keep at it for months andd you'll start to see the weight drop off. I use my fitness pal app to count and it is by far the easiest way to go about it.

Plus you get a good feel for what is and isn't calorie dense food and as a result you may find like I did that I can eat heaps of the right type of food that meets my cal allowance and still lose weight.

Without been a dick your spiel about long hours doesn't tug at my heart strings I got in the best shape of my life doing 60+ hr weeks of manual labour working on 14/6/6 meaning only two days off a month.

FYI your 'trainer' is a peanut piss him off.
 

All you need to do is eat less calories than you burn. The approaches that apply to body builders do not apply to you.
 
diet - log everything you eat and drink every day in a spreadsheet or app or plain diary
for a week. Then post it up and get some improvement hints.

I've dropped 27kg mostly by switching from large strong mochas (4 a day) to 2 -3 long blacks, walking up the stairs at work everyday at least once(20 floors) and cleaning up the diet. I still have 10 -15kg to go.

Try 2-3 workouts a week plus a couple of 4-5km walks.
Keep it as simple as possible as its easier to stick with.

Small simple changes can make the biggest difference.

You don't need drugs .
Could try a preworkout but they're just stims.
 
Timelord said:
ok I may have been over thinking it
will go back to basics and let you know how i have gone
cheers
Click to expand...
It's common for many to overthink these things
What I have found as you get older and certainly at our age is that you need to get more active, not less.
Generally, metabolism is slower, test levels are lower and it doesn't take as much food before you start storing fat.
Workout with weights at least 4 times a week, be consistent, keep rest between sets to a minimum.
You can lose fat while still getting fitter, stronger and more muscular.
 
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