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First CrossFit Study: It Works Wonders, If You Can Survive

Way to see the silver lining in this thread...

Crossfit has given me many wonderful things living in a somewhat regional part of NSW
-girls who lift (squat/press/deadlift, no pussy step classes or toning resistance routines with tiny pink dumbells)
-my shiny fagatron commercial gym stocks bumper plates, oodles of barbells and power racks, foam rollers and im practically the only one of the few who use them
-cheaper and more available lifting gear (oly shoes, knee sleeves, supportive shit)
-hot girls who lift
-an increase in strongman equipment availability (my local box has atlas stones, axles, logs and prowlers)
-girls that lift
-actual box owners and coaches who take their shit seriously, readily available coaching for oly lifts
-DAT CHIX CROSSFIT ASS
 
Can't get the pic but on Facebook the 'Gym meme' page just showed a picture of Crossfitters doing weighted pullups with assistance bands.
 


high road

Firstly, Ironically, Rippetoe has done an excellent job training many Crossfit instructors to lift and teach lifting.

As a means to get fit and super strong...

I firmly believe that Metabolic conditioning is the answer to everything.
I have been fascinated with this type of workout for the last 20 years, well before cross-fit.

To do this, one needs to take a handful of the *major* exercises, using very heavy weight, upper body 6~12, lower body 10~20, moving from one exercise to the next, without pause and to fatigue, the duration of the session depending on the condition of the trainee around and between 10 to 15 minutes, it's impossible to go-on any longer maintianing the same intensity of work..

When i prescribe exercise for the purpose of increasing strength and flexibility efficiantly; safety is my first consideration.

Any exercise with undue, unessary *force* placed on the structures of the body is not considered.

my check list:
*Full ROM of the muscles worked from fully stretched to fully contracted position
*resistance is constant and correctly variable throughout the ROM
*The movement is controlled without the use of momentum.
*The postitive portion of the rep is pushed as fast as possible
* the negative portion of the rep is slow and controlled
* a second pause at each turnaround to ensure the trainee has control of the rep and that the muscles targeted are actually doing the work.
* the set is terminated when one has reached fatigue...

Although the olympic movements will provide the same metabolic effect it doesn't meet the requirments for safe productive exercise.
 
Interestingly enough, this is just your opinion, just like the link you posted is Rips opinion and link I posted is some else's opinion and I have my own opinion on the topic (which would probably surprise you).

I like evidence. Does anyone have any data to suggest high rep Olympic lifting is not safe? You know, like a study, like the one the OP posted up... 20,000 people did high rep Olympic lifts under the watchful eye of an expert coach at a % of the 1 RM for 26weeks. At the end of the 26 weeks all but 6 had died but of those 6, 5 will never walk again and 1 went on to be crowned king of high rep Olympic lifting. Because until such a study has been completed all we can go off is opinions, and you know what opinions are like...
 
Its amazing how much people know about crossfit without ever attending a class, I just got back from my second session today, this morning was 5 sets of strict shoulder press 75% Body weight, then max strict pullups, 5 rounds and had 45mins to complete, then this arvo spent 1hr15mins working snatch at 40kg for form, pissed my pants 18 times and 22injurys happened in each session(sarcasm) dont judge what you have not done
 

Yes, you can do high rep weightlifting safely. The question is, why would you want to?

I can take 6-8 months learning and integrating the quick lifts as basically cardio, or I can go push a prowler or something which will take me like two weeks to get the hang of.

I want to be doing high rep weightlifting why exactly? This fits into what goal again? Certainly doesn't make me stronger, doesn't make me faster, doesn't condition me better than lots of other things that don't require tired arms holding a bar above my head. So, like many things about Crossfit, why?
 

Sounds like you don't want to be doing them, so don't.


I can give you reason as to why, but in all honesty, I don't think you are to interested in hear them