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Can't make my mind!

^^^^^ This.

Ten years of solid training and eating will have you growing no problems at all

Your dead lift seems really low compared to your squat
Yeah haha, fractional the scaphoid in my wrist, held me back on dead lifts for 6 months. I was doing hyper extensions which didn't increase my strength at all
 
Just as a matter of relation I have been training 10 years plus.. if you go through the member pics there's a photo of me from earlier this year in relatively shit condition, but my shit condition is still far ahead of many that lift. All it takes is solid nutrition and hard training, persistence is omnipotent.

here I dug it up for you; me in poor condition, pretty soft and needing to lean out substantially: It's not "poor" perse, but poor by my standard of where I want to be (got softened by long term relationship .. they kill you don't do it )

And yep, did it without any enhancements, whey protein and that's about it. Actually this year I haven't even bothered with fish oil, multis, BCAA's. I do take a pre workout, but apart from that..... cactus

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Diets holding you back bud. Count cals, eat 3G/bw protein. Take a week off every 8 wks you'll grow.

There will be time for gear in the future when your older.

I agree with this post time to start shovelling meat down until you literally can't any more and then decking a 1L tub of ice cream post training (pick the creamy tasty one it will go down easy)
 
17 years old + only training for 1-2 years on and off + wanting to take steroids = facepalm
 
17 years old + only training for 1-2 years on and off + wanting to take steroids = facepalm

Its the large proportion of the kids in commercial gyms these days, getting on the gear so they can get a bigger chest quicker or show off their ****** abs at a festival so all the other boys can mirin them and touch each other, haha.
 
Its the large proportion of the kids in commercial gyms these days, getting on the gear so they can get a bigger chest quicker or show off their ****** abs at a festival so all the other boys can mirin them and touch each other, haha.

Yea and they are fucking homos
 
Yea and they are fucking homos
How bout you and your boyfriend stop running your mouths ?
no one else dissed like you two kids, i train hard and was considering gear to train harder.
got a problem, don't comment on a forum you little keyboard hero.
 
[MENTION=16655]Anthkay[/MENTION];
What the guys are saying is that at 17 you are too young too take gear. You have quite a few years of natural gains to come.

Don't take it personal.


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Your not actually asking for peoples opinions all you really want is people to agree with you and say yeah go do it.

Do what you fucking want but people have said you are way too young.

At 26% BF your diet is obviously pretty shit and your training program isn't great for someone at your level. Fix that shit first.
 
Fuck me, where to start
Firstly, the routine looks like it's copy and pasted straight out of FLEX magazine, way too much going on there.
Secondly, I'd forget about one body part per day routines especially if you're trying to shed some body fat.

I'd tell you to do a full body routine but I suspect you wouldn't do it anyway so I'm going to suggest you do an Upper/Lower split or a Legs/Push/Pull split.
 
Rugby little?

Did he call me small haha

How bout you and your boyfriend stop running your mouths ?
no one else dissed like you two kids, i train hard and was considering gear to train harder.
got a problem, don't comment on a forum you little keyboard hero.

Mate I honestly dont know where to start....

At your age, your training experience and your current weight/bodyfat (no disrespect) you are no where near the level you need to be at to be taking steroids/PH's - wait 6,7,8,9 years, get to sub 15% bodyfat and if you still have the drive to use them then go for it...honestly though they will do nothing for you atm. and to say you need them to train harder...steroids/PH's dont make you train harder, they dont cook your food, they dont drag your ass out of bed at 5am, they dont stop you going out on the weekends, they dont motivate you - this is all done by youself and your mind...

P.S - I dont get this comment - PS: I should be safe according to my body size?

These things have nothing to do with your bodysize...
 
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steroids/PH's dont make you train harder, they dont cook your food, they dont drag your ass out of bed at 5am, they dont stop you going out on the weekends, they dont motivate you - this is all done by youself and your mind...
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Do you know a sup that does these things for you at all? That would be awesome.