Thanks for that, the MMPR rack is definitely my other alternative, I'm still trying to decide between the MMPR and the powertec.
(my space is 3.5 wide, but only 2.5 deep and 2.25 high to joists (2.35 between) - joists are about 1.6 apart), the Commercial racks just aren't going to work comfortably in my space.
The plus of the ironmaster bench is that i very much like the cable tower that comes with it (excellent feedback around the web, and works better for my space than rack attached) (epecially as i see myself moving to a commercial rack at some point in the future)
At the moment the MMPR has me sold on pullup bars (not so useful with my roof clearance anyway though), rear crossmember spacing, rack depth and price, the powertec on the safeties (both options available, sabre and the square ones), smaller footprint, dip bars and slightly heavier construction.
Bench wise i'm wanting the ironmaster for the cable attachment, but i'm a little concerned with the narrowness of the bench (25cm) and the narrowness of the seat for a bigger guy. The muscle motion flat bench looks like a fantastic flat option, but i'd need a decent incline as well, and a decline for ab work.